SLCC 2009 music organizational meeting minutes

[17:53]  Katydid Something: Hey Rose!
[17:53]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi there Katy!
[17:53]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi Mia!
[17:53]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi Sean!
[17:53]  Katydid Something: Here for the meeting?
[17:53]  RoseDrop Rust: Yes'm.
[17:53]  Katydid Something: Pull up a rock or chair!
[17:54]  Katydid Something: Hi Apple!
[17:54]  Apple MacKay: Hey everyone
[17:54]  Mia Kitchensink: hey apple
[17:54]  Apple MacKay: look tonight we are going to have more people
[17:54]  Apple MacKay: I think we need the stage
[17:54]  RoseDrop Rust: I haven't played here yet.
[17:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: easy nuff
[17:54]  Apple MacKay: to be able to seat everyone
[17:54]  Apple MacKay: Sup D
[17:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: man, you walked, apple?
[17:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: sheesh, use the tech ;P
[17:55]  SeanMcPherson Senior: *cough*
[17:55]  Apple MacKay: yeah... Im old fashioned that way
[17:55]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I'm just saving time, guitar in my lap, getting some callus time in
[17:55]  Apple MacKay: Hi Rhiannon
[17:56]  Apple MacKay shouts: Folks lets sit up on the stage tonight ok?
[17:57]  RoseDrop Rust: Your're probably wondering why I brought you here!
[17:57]  RoseDrop Rust: Tell them DD.
[17:57]  Mia Kitchensink: hey Nasus
[17:58]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: howdy all :)
[17:58]  Nasus Dumart: hello
[17:58]  Apple MacKay waves
[17:58]  Apple MacKay: hi Cyl
[17:58]  Apple MacKay: glad you could make it
[17:58]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi Rhiannon!
[17:58]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi there...i am here and beth odets is sitting here next to me...so we are both present. :)
[17:58]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: going to change into someting less primmy.. don't mind me
[17:59]  Mia Kitchensink: great!
[17:59]  Katydid Something: Hi Rhiannon!
[17:59]  RoseDrop Rust: Should I turn away?
[17:59]  Nasus Dumart waves to Beth
[17:59]  Katydid Something: Hey Crap!
[17:59]  RoseDrop Rust: Should I change too?
[17:59]  Mia Kitchensink: you 2 sounded great the other morning. I want that CD Cyl & Beth
[17:59]  RoseDrop Rust: Crap!
[17:59]  RoseDrop Rust: Hihi!
[17:59]  Crap Mariner salutes
[17:59]  Mia Kitchensink: salute!
[17:59]  Crap Mariner looks around for Kyle.
[18:00]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i will hopefully finish the editing this weekend
[18:00]  Crap Mariner: I talked with Kyle a bit this morning. And Filthy this PM.
[18:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: heya cyl!
[18:00]  EvaMoon Ember: Hi everyone!
[18:00]  Mia Kitchensink: hey Eva
[18:00]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi eva
[18:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior waves to feline and chris
[18:00]  Nasus Dumart: hi Eva
[18:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: apple, I posted on plurk to grab any stragglers
[18:00]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi sean from both me and beth
[18:00]  Katydid Something: Hey Eva and Feline!
[18:00]  Katydid Something: Hi Cyl!
[18:00]  EvaMoon Ember: I just told Capos about the music track and he says he'll likely come
[18:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: ohh, heya beth!
[18:00]  RoseDrop Rust: Cylindrian!
[18:00]  Katydid Something: Hi Chris
[18:00]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi katy
[18:00]  RoseDrop Rust: Woot!
[18:00]  Mia Kitchensink: good
[18:01]  Chris Norse: Hi
[18:01]  Feline Slade: Hi, Katy
[18:01]  Crap Mariner: i keep forgetting to mention it on the tunes insl subscribeomateric
[18:01]  Apple MacKay: we should have some folks that we asked where they were last meeting
[18:01]  Crap Mariner: excellent.
[18:01]  Apple MacKay: Stream Team... Katy?
[18:01]  Apple MacKay: Chief?
[18:01]  Katydid Something: Ed knows
[18:01]  SeanMcPherson Senior: owie. finger tip calluses, here I come!
[18:01]  Katydid Something: he is part of it
[18:01]  RoseDrop Rust: Hugs Eva!
[18:01]  EvaMoon Ember: Hey Rusty!
[18:01]  Apple MacKay: I saw that... is he coming tonight?
[18:02]  Crap Mariner: was there a mention on Live Music Enthusiasts group?
[18:02]  Doubledown Tandino: i havnt seen anything in the music groups bout this (yet)
[18:02]  Apple MacKay: put it out please... now if possible
[18:02]  Doubledown Tandino: (nudge)
[18:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I twittered it a bit ago
[18:02]  Crap Mariner: if not, i'd be willing to take the hit for spamming
[18:02]  Crap Mariner: ok
[18:02]  Apple MacKay: short notice but what else is new
[18:02]  Crap Mariner: (f- astrin)
[18:02]  EvaMoon Ember: I've been telling people one on on one
[18:02]  Katydid Something: I haven't heard since he joined the google group after I IM'ed him
[18:02]  Nasus Dumart: lol Crap
[18:02]  Nexeus Fatale: LESSON 1 LEARNED! Do not download a super huge file in Firefox and Turn on SL when running on just battery power and a wi-fi connection
[18:02]  Apple MacKay: I did too
[18:02]  Katydid Something: Hi Nexeus
[18:03]  Mia Kitchensink: Hi Nexeus
[18:03]  Nexeus Fatale: Hey everyone :-D
[18:03]  Nasus Dumart: hey Briana!
[18:03]  Mia Kitchensink: Bri
[18:03]  Apple MacKay: sup Nex
[18:03]  RoseDrop Rust: Hey I put out unsolicited crap all the time.
[18:03]  Katydid Something: And Chief Ingelwood wanted a TP but he isn't on yet
[18:03]  Katydid Something: Hi Amulius!
[18:03]  Apple MacKay: and Pulaski?
[18:03]  Katydid Something: I IM'ed him today
[18:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Heya Nexeus, we'll even let new mac users in, how cool is that?
[18:03]  Katydid Something: and he has received the correspondence
[18:03]  Feline Slade: lol
[18:03]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[18:03]  RoseDrop Rust: Hey!
[18:04]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Heya keiko
[18:04]  Nexeus Fatale: lol :-P HEY Sean your soo getting speared at SLCC :-P
[18:04]  Takamura Keiko: Heya :D
[18:04]  Apple MacKay: hey Bosco
[18:04]  Katydid Something: Hi Bosco
[18:04]  Bosco Constantine: ahey all
[18:04]  Katydid Something: Hey Keiko!
[18:04]  Nexeus Fatale: Keiko!!! =^.^=
[18:04]  Takamura Keiko: Hallo everybody!
[18:04]  Mia Kitchensink: hey Bosco
[18:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: howzit bri?
[18:04]  RoseDrop Rust: When I was visiting SL musicians in SF, I saw more Mac pro-books in one place than at my local Mac store.
[18:04]  Brianna Beresford: thanks I think I wil just stand
[18:04]  Crap Mariner: i assume the arrangement of these seats keeps everyone within 20m chatrange?
[18:05]  Apple MacKay: lets give this just a few more minutes and then start
[18:05]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi Bosco!
[18:05]  Apple MacKay: yes
[18:05]  Apple MacKay: to Crap
[18:05]  RoseDrop Rust: Who knows how to get a gig in this place?
[18:05]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[18:05]  Brianna Beresford: whew this time I didnt drown
[18:05]  Apple MacKay looks around
[18:05]  Rhiannon Chatnoir giggles
[18:05]  Mia Kitchensink points
[18:05]  Apple MacKay changes group tag
[18:06]  Katydid Something: We're going to wait just a few more minutes
[18:06]  RoseDrop Rust: Shit, I have to find another venue group to quit.
[18:06]  Apple MacKay: hey Lyndon
[18:06]  Doubledown Tandino: rosedrop, you'll need to work your way up... start by being a dancer or escort for a year, until you move up to SL musician
[18:06]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[18:06]  RoseDrop Rust: I already dropped all my adult entertainment ones.
[18:06]  Crap Mariner: what about the kid entertainment ones?
[18:06]  Apple MacKay: know em by heart now?
[18:06]  Crap Mariner: oops
[18:07]  Doubledown Tandino: i was an escort for 9 months til i found 'talent in a box' over at yadnis junkyard
[18:07]  Katydid Something: Hi Brianna
[18:07]  Brianna Beresford: Hi Katy
[18:07]  Doubledown Tandino: geriatric entertainment?
[18:07]  Crap Mariner: was it free, DD?
[18:07]  RoseDrop Rust: Crap, I was a lousey escort. I didn't get the money.
[18:07]  Doubledown Tandino: yeah free talent in a box, mod, no copy
[18:07]  Crap Mariner: still paid too much, i think
[18:07]  Takamura Keiko puts fingers in ears. "tmi tmi tmi tmi lalalal"
[18:07]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[18:07]  RoseDrop Rust: Keiko!
[18:07]  Takamura Keiko: :3
[18:07]  RoseDrop Rust: Keiko said I could live in her basement.
[18:07]  SeanMcPherson Senior: heya Lyndon
[18:08]  Apple MacKay: Kyle just scoot in a bit to the inner circle so you make sure you hear everyone
[18:08]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi yle
[18:08]  Takamura Keiko: I recall nothing of the sort, Rusty, but it still stands.
[18:08]  SeanMcPherson Senior waves to Kyle
[18:08]  Kyle Beltran: heya Cyl :)
[18:08]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: kyle even
[18:08]  Feline Slade waves to Lyndon
[18:08]  EvaMoon Ember: Hi Kyle
[18:08]  Kyle Beltran: hi Sean
[18:08]  Lyndon Heart: hey kids.. I put out a call for musicians last night and .. omg!
[18:08]  Kyle Beltran: hiya Eva :)
[18:08]  RoseDrop Rust: I would even cut my hair.
[18:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: how did that go Lyndon
[18:08]  Katydid Something: Hey Kyle!
[18:08]  Apple MacKay: omg what?
[18:08]  Crap Mariner mutes Moody... grrrrr spammer
[18:08]  RoseDrop Rust: Hi Lyndon!
[18:08]  Kyle Beltran: hello Katy
[18:08]  Lyndon Heart: it's been IM hell all day
[18:08]  Katydid Something: Hi Edward!
[18:09]  Apple MacKay: lol
[18:09]  Katydid Something: OK
[18:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol.. yeah good sort of spammy I am sure
[18:09]  Katydid Something: We have most of the people we were expecting tonight
[18:09]  Katydid Something: Let me call the meeting to order
[18:09]  EvaMoon Ember: I'm told I'm dancing. I can't see it and stop animations ain't working. sorry!
[18:09]  Apple MacKay: lets start
[18:09]  Edward Lowell: howdy everyone :) good to see y'all
[18:09]  Apple MacKay: I'll make sure to capture the chat log again tonight
[18:09]  Lyndon Heart: hey Ed
[18:10]  Katydid Something: First -- I'd like to have Kyle update us on what's going on with Pulasky
[18:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks, it was a big help to read for those of us unable to be here
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: can everyone hear ok?
[18:10]  Doubledown Tandino: hear?
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: read
[18:10]  SeanMcPherson Senior: well, I can read okay, if that's what you mean.
[18:10]  Doubledown Tandino: k yeah lol
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: whatever
[18:10]  Mia Kitchensink: ;D
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: thats what I meant
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: sorry
[18:10]  Katydid Something: Kyle, can you fill us in?
[18:10]  SeanMcPherson Senior waits to get swatted off the seat into the water :)
[18:11]  Kyle Beltran: well, Katy, when I spoke with him earlier this morning, it appears that the back surgery he had some months back has relapsed...
[18:11]  Katydid Something shivers
[18:12]  Kyle Beltran: I'm all too familiar with debilitating back pain - nothing like Puli suffers - but apparently he has withdrawn his proposal, isn;t that right Nexeus?
[18:12]  RoseDrop Rust: Is someone talking?
[18:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir nods
[18:12]  RoseDrop Rust: Voice?
[18:12]  Apple MacKay: no
[18:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: just chat RoseDrop.. no voice
[18:12]  Apple MacKay: chat
[18:12]  Katydid Something: no voice read!
[18:12]  Doubledown Tandino: (all text rose)
[18:12]  Nexeus Fatale: He withdrew being the lead, but not necessarily his proposal - which we were all working on.
[18:12]  RoseDrop Rust: kk
[18:12]  Nexeus Fatale: But he definately took a step back /end
[18:12]  Katydid Something: OK
[18:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: you are correct in that summary.. he reached out to Nex
[18:13]  Apple MacKay: I hope that we didnt discourage him
[18:13]  Kyle Beltran: yeah, I know all you want to do in that condition is lay on the couch and try to find a position that doesn't hurt for maybe 40 seconds
[18:13]  Lyndon Heart: so is there a replacement on the SLCC board for music?
[18:13]  Katydid Something: Nexeus can you share his proposal with us at some point soo we can include his ideas in ours?
[18:13]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: he was not on the board
[18:13]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: poor guy
[18:13]  Katydid Something: Hey Amy!
[18:13]  Doubledown Tandino: hi amy
[18:13]  Lyndon Heart: ok
[18:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and, we should be able to email you a copy of what he had last sent
[18:14]  Brianna Beresford: Hey Amy
[18:14]  Amy Ferguson: hi Katydid
[18:14]  Amy Ferguson: Hi DD
[18:14]  Amy Ferguson: hi Bri
[18:14]  Nexeus Fatale: Let me clear (and Rhiannon correct me if I'm one anywhere here) but he wasn't on the board more was going to be the lead of the music track wich included any performances that would go on.
[18:14]  Katydid Something: I worked up a "working" proposal which I treid to route to as many of you as I could
[18:14]  Katydid Something: basically it was a catchall document to start with
[18:15]  Nexeus Fatale: He shared some informatino we can definately send to you, but there were still a lot of questions yet to be answered, and it dealt directly with performance items not discussions or panels, etc.
[18:15]  Nexeus Fatale: /end
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, a good start Katy on the proposal so far
[18:15]  Katydid Something: One of the first things we have to do is choose leadership roles
[18:15]  Apple MacKay: appreciated Nexeus
[18:15]  Crap Mariner: Not to mince words - Puli has a knack for rounding up sponsors for events. Is there any way to somehow get in touch with them so they can support this effort?
[18:16]  Katydid Something: and then set up some committees to share the load
[18:16]  Kyle Beltran: He did mention that most of them are feeling the economic crunch, so their contributions will be less, but that doesn't mean they aren't interested
[18:17]  Apple MacKay: Jana please move into the inner circle so as not to miss some of the chat
[18:17]  Katydid Something: Our thoughts are that the track be co-chaired
[18:17]  Crap Mariner: Understandable.
[18:17]  Katydid Something: with one person concetrating on the tracks and the other on the performance aspects
[18:17]  Brianna Beresford: that makes sense
[18:18]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: that sounds great
[18:18]  EvaMoon Ember: are we making nominations?
[18:18]  SeanMcPherson Senior: (it's a big undertaking)
[18:18]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: not if the workload is divided out
[18:18]  Crap Mariner: where would promotional materials fall under? tracks or performances?
[18:18]  Katydid Something: Is there anyone who feels they have the time and the energy and organiztional skills to voluteer?
[18:18]  Takamura Keiko: If we put our minds to it, we can do anything!
[18:18]  Takamura Keiko: :D :D :D
[18:18]  Apple MacKay: I nominate Katy as a co-chair
[18:18]  Brianna Beresford: I second
[18:18]  EvaMoon Ember: I nominate Lyndon for performance cochair
[18:19]  Apple MacKay: and I think that there is a 3rd co-chair as Crap just unknowingly pointed out
[18:19]  Katydid Something: for either of the chairs
[18:19]  Brianna Beresford: Second that
[18:19]  Kyle Beltran: I'd like to recommend my wife, a trained stage manager, to work in that respect
[18:19]  Lyndon Heart: we could use someone like that Kyle
[18:19]  Bosco Constantine: We don't need a bunch of chairs at the top - we have a ton of subcomittees for specialties
[18:19]  Apple MacKay: A marketing / sponsorship / chair
[18:20]  Katydid Something: absolutely Bosco
[18:20]  Bosco Constantine: we need to make sure the top few are there just to push the paperwork
[18:20]  Kyle Beltran: yes, she's very good at getting actors' asses on stage, and they're almost as bad as musicians
[18:20]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: Beth nominates cylindrian as a performance chairperson
[18:20]  Brianna Beresford: I agree we need to all help at the subcommittee level
[18:20]  Bosco Constantine: and make sure there is great coordination
[18:20]  Bosco Constantine: the top is a HUGE coordinator - not a specialist
[18:20]  Doubledown Tandino: ill nominate whoever wants to do it
[18:20]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I think 3 is a pretty reasonable number for a project this large.
[18:20]  Katydid Something: the Chairs should be able to coordinate all aspect of their responsiblities and delegate!
[18:20]  EvaMoon Ember agrees
[18:20]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: exactly
[18:20]  Edward Lowell: I'll volunteer .. whatever skills I may have to the technical side of the house, be it performances, streaming audio/video, recording etc ....
[18:20]  Bosco Constantine: i've put up a few plans on the google board and would be happy to coordinate if anyone isn't killing to be at the top
[18:20]  Brianna Beresford: and this subdivision makes sense
[18:21]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: share the load and communicate
[18:21]  Katydid Something: Rhiannon, is there anything against 3 chairs?
[18:21]  RoseDrop Rust: Good so far.
[18:21]  Crap Mariner: i'll coord with the marketing materials person. if we go the cd-as-invite in the gift bag concept, i'll help pay for that cost.
[18:21]  Brianna Beresford: Maybe we call them Track Coordinators
[18:22]  RoseDrop Rust: I could maybe write some marketing copy.
[18:22]  Brianna Beresford: or something so the title isnt oppressive
[18:22]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple, can you recap who we think just got nominated to be what positions, please, assuming 3 co's is do-able by board approval
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: the main thing is to communicate... last meeting there was alot of questions regarding that... Is everyone satified with the level of communication thus far with the google group and posting just about everywhere?
[18:22]  Bosco Constantine: titles don't matter - its what they do and follow though that is important
[18:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir is the main marketing person btw.. so feel free to poke/ask me things
[18:22]  Crap Mariner: I prefer the Google group, yes. allows for easy additions and document sharing
[18:22]  EvaMoon Ember: I'd like to be on the performance committee but I have professional marketing experience and would be happy to help there too
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: sub-committees need someone to report to
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: thats all
[18:22]  Lyndon Heart: working for me
[18:23]  Apple MacKay: I thought 3 would make sense as I see 3 parts to this being successful
[18:23]  Katydid Something: I can see Marketing under tracks
[18:23]  Brianna Beresford: I will volunteer on the education side
[18:23]  RoseDrop Rust: I do have experience staging live RL/SL shows
[18:23]  Bosco Constantine: this should be the last HUGE group meeting for a while - we should have a steering committee that is a small group to keep up with progress
[18:23]  Katydid Something: as I can see technical under performance
[18:23]  Lyndon Heart: I nominate Eva to the 3rd co-chair of performance then ;-)
[18:23]  EvaMoon Ember: wait! I already nominated you, Lyndon
[18:24]  Lyndon Heart: unless it's been filled while I was fending off musicians from Brazil!
[18:24]  Brianna Beresford: perhaps you need two cochairs on each one
[18:24]  Brianna Beresford: this is a big task
[18:24]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: and I ( beth ) nominated Cyl
[18:24]  Apple MacKay: 1 sec Sean I'll have that list
[18:24]  Lyndon Heart: that's what I was thining
[18:24]  Bosco Constantine: i think a Core Team of 5 people isn't unreasonable
[18:24]  Brianna Beresford: 6 on the steering committe then
[18:24]  Mia Kitchensink: I have time and line up prospective sponsors. I could direct interested persons to someone that has more experience closing a deal.
[18:24]  Bosco Constantine: the last last Area size event I helped run we had 8 people
[18:24]  Katydid Something: Rhiannon and Nexues, what does the SLCC think about the 3 chairs?
[18:24]  Lyndon Heart: Patrick LaSalle and I will tandem for sound and stuff I'm sure
[18:24]  Bosco Constantine: and it was a major help
[18:24]  Doubledown Tandino: are the chairs turning into a couch? that can fold out into a bed?
[18:25]  Bosco Constantine: as far as SLCC is concerned we put one person on paper
[18:25]  RoseDrop Rust offers to fight Crap for the steering wheel.
[18:25]  Bosco Constantine: for work and what we are doing we need to be organized
[18:25]  Nexeus Fatale: We've been asking each track to have 2, I don't think 3 would be that much of an issue.
[18:25]  Crap Mariner doesn't drive.
[18:25]  Bosco Constantine: even if that means 6 people
[18:25]  Brianna Beresford: well lets nominate a head to go on the program
[18:25]  Katydid Something: and somewhere I missed what the 3rd chair was
[18:25]  Brianna Beresford: I would nominate apple for that
[18:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well for our business track we have done co chairs this year
[18:26]  Lyndon Heart: for perfomance Kate?
[18:26]  Bosco Constantine: Apple you should be the Point of contact
[18:26]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and have in past for others
[18:26]  EvaMoon Ember: marketing
[18:26]  Katydid Something: Then lets take them one by one
[18:26]  Bosco Constantine: we need just one for SLCC
[18:26]  EvaMoon Ember: was the third chair
[18:26]  Bosco Constantine: then we can have our own down the line
[18:26]  Katydid Something: got it
[18:26]  Apple MacKay: recap of nominations is here:
[18:18] Apple MacKay: I nominate Katy as a co-chair
[18:18] Brianna Beresford: I second
[18:18] EvaMoon Ember: I nominate Lyndon for performance cochair
[18:19] Kyle Beltran: I'd like to recommend my wife, a trained stage manager, to work in that respect
[18:20] Cylindrian Rutabaga: Beth nominates cylindrian as a performance chairperson
[18:20] Edward Lowell: I'll volunteer
[18:20] Bosco Constantine
[18:26]  Brianna Beresford: I think the Head Honcho shoujld be Apple perhaps
[18:26]  Crap Mariner: I think Apple will do fine as point of contact.
[18:26]  Brianna Beresford: then co chairs for each
[18:26]  Bosco Constantine: Single point of contact should be ideal
[18:26]  Brianna Beresford: and they can bring in the rest
[18:26]  Katydid Something: Let's take the Track chair first
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: of us to help them
[18:27]  RoseDrop Rust: Nice ta meecha Aple!
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: Katy, Lyndon, Cyl, Kyle's wife
[18:27]  Nasus Dumart: I am able to get some sponsor leads - working on contacts
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: Ed
[18:27]  RoseDrop Rust: aPple!
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: and Bosco
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: Apple has lead us this far
[18:27]  Katydid Something: May I have nominations for the Track chair
[18:27]  EvaMoon Ember: Apple
[18:27]  Katydid Something: So far I have Katy
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: uh
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: I move to nominate Apple
[18:27]  Mia Kitchensink: I have always directed my contacts to Apple in the past
[18:27]  Katydid Something: Apple
[18:27]  Kyle Beltran: Cyl pulled some amazing stuff out of her...sleeve...last year
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: Im good at motivating
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: as the public track chair
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: and communicating
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: thats it
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: he can keep everyone on top
[18:27]  Lyndon Heart: I second Apple
[18:27]  Brianna Beresford: of everythning
[18:28]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: thanks kyle
[18:28]  Lyndon Heart: yes she did Kyle
[18:28]  Brianna Beresford: then we have three sub chairs right
[18:28]  Kyle Beltran: you too, brother
[18:28]  Brianna Beresford: that need to be decided
[18:28]  Lyndon Heart: it wouldn't have happened without her
[18:28]  Katydid Something: OK the nominations for Track chair are Apple and Katy
[18:28]  Brianna Beresford: should we take a vote
[18:28]  Katydid Something: can we have a vote?
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: Apple shouldn't be one
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: he is the main contact
[18:29]  Apple MacKay: agreed
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: take him off
[18:29]  Brianna Beresford: but he has to be voted in
[18:29]  Lyndon Heart: so Katydid
[18:29]  Brianna Beresford: as the Main Music Track chair
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: this isn't about voting
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: its about finding the right person
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: not a popularity contest
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: we need a consesus
[18:29]  RoseDrop Rust: Consensus, perhaps?
[18:29]  Brianna Beresford: I agree but someone has to agree to be in charge
[18:29]  Bosco Constantine: correct
[18:29]  Brianna Beresford: that we all will follow
[18:29]  EvaMoon Ember: voting is normal for this sort of thing
[18:29]  Katydid Something: I didn;t think it was a popularity contes
[18:30]  Bosco Constantine: voting excludes people
[18:30]  Bosco Constantine: do what you want
[18:30]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Last I checked, I voted for people I thought could do the job, not that I liked ;P
[18:30]  RoseDrop Rust: Just discussion 'til most preferable all, agree.
[18:30]  Bosco Constantine: its better if we all agree and not vote
[18:30]  Brianna Beresford: well you figure out how to get the person to agree without it
[18:30]  Apple MacKay: thanks Sean
[18:30]  Kyle Beltran: I think we should find the person who wants to do it the least, and force them to do it :)
[18:30]  Bosco Constantine: i do it all the time Brianna = )
[18:30]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[18:30]  Katydid Something: LOL
[18:30]  Doubledown Tandino: ill jump on that kyle
[18:30]  RoseDrop Rust: I agree with Bosco.
[18:30]  Kyle Beltran: oh wait, not me, though :)
[18:30]  Doubledown Tandino: that's my speciality
[18:30]  Brianna Beresford: OK then get us a leader
[18:30]  Feline Slade: lol Kyle
[18:30]  Lyndon Heart: Apple seems a good choice for track chair
[18:30]  Bosco Constantine: Apple is at the top at the point person YES?
[18:31]  Lyndon Heart pointsa t Kyle too ;-)
[18:31]  Brianna Beresford: yes I agree but this isnt a vote remember
[18:31]  Crap Mariner eyes Kyle...
[18:31]  Brianna Beresford: so should it be Kyle, Katy or apple
[18:31]  EvaMoon Ember: are we having a vote? Somehow we need to express our preference
[18:31]  Bosco Constantine: gah we need a dry erase board ha ha
[18:31]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: basically in the way you are lining it up, you are thinking of Track chair as the direct connection between us the board and the rest of the music track, correct
[18:31]  Doubledown Tandino: contest board?
[18:31]  Kyle Beltran: nooooooo Brianna!
[18:31]  RoseDrop Rust: I only know Kyle.
[18:31]  Nasus Dumart: Define 'Track Chair'
[18:32]  Amy Ferguson: yes please define
[18:32]  Lyndon Heart: Music
[18:32]  RoseDrop Rust: Nice ta meecha Apple.
[18:32]  Lyndon Heart: Track
[18:32]  Apple MacKay: :)
[18:32]  Brianna Beresford: Nexus tell us what you need for the program
[18:32]  Bosco Constantine: we need a single person to communicate from SLCC to this group - A single person - That should be Apple
[18:32]  Edward Lowell: I agree ... if APPLE wants to do it .. knows the responsibility of it .... and accepts the position .. then I am willing to support that .. :)
[18:32]  Lyndon Heart: Chair
[18:32]  Crap Mariner: bosco - agreed
[18:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, for us, we need someone to be the formal responsible party to submit the proposal and as the direct line of communication
[18:32]  Katydid Something: The person reponsible for puting together and coordinating wih the leaders of the acutal sessions of panels
[18:32]  Brianna Beresford: then we all agree for Apple to be the Main Track chair
[18:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: whether that be 1 or 2 or even 3 people
[18:32]  Bosco Constantine: Apple is at the top - he is off the table for things under
[18:33]  Brianna Beresford: but I think Nexus said only one name goes in to the program
[18:33]  EvaMoon Ember: someone should say 'all agreed, say aye"
[18:33]  Crap Mariner: yes. apple on the top of the heap.
[18:33]  Brianna Beresford: aye
[18:33]  Bosco Constantine: aye
[18:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that person(s) would also be part of ongoing (all track) touch point meetings for general overall conference logistics and questions, etc
[18:33]  Lyndon Heart: aye
[18:33]  Kyle Beltran: this is a shockingly large group to have together already, so Apple, Katy, fine
[18:33]  EvaMoon Ember: aye
[18:33]  Mia Kitchensink: aye
[18:33]  Edward Lowell: aye
[18:33]  RoseDrop Rust: Does anyone have any other person in mind?
[18:33]  Amy Ferguson: aye
[18:33]  SeanMcPherson Senior: aye
[18:33]  Feline Slade: aye
[18:33]  EvaMoon Ember: all opposed, say nay
[18:33]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[18:33]  Bosco Constantine: Apple - how many people do you feel comfrotable helping you?
[18:33]  Katydid Something: Thaks Crap@
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: 2 - 3- -4?
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: everyone I can get
[18:34]  RoseDrop Rust: I am perfectly fine with the choice of the group.
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: keep it smaller
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: :)
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: 3
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: smaller meeting are better
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: ok
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: marketing
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: performance
[18:34]  Apple MacKay: and panels
[18:34]  Crap Mariner nods
[18:34]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Sounds good to me.
[18:34]  Crap Mariner: a good division
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: marketing first
[18:34]  Brianna Beresford: that makes sense
[18:34]  Bosco Constantine: who wants to chair or co-chair?
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Besides, we just crowned him king, now we get to deal with it :) Which order for it, apple?
[18:35]  Nexeus Fatale: "[18:33] Brianna Beresford: but I think Nexus said only one name goes in to the program" - I never said this :)
[18:35]  Apple MacKay: I nominate Crap
[18:35]  RoseDrop Rust: By panels do you mean demos/discussions/education/
[18:35]  RoseDrop Rust: ?
[18:35]  Bosco Constantine: Marketing first
[18:35]  Apple MacKay: for marketing
[18:35]  Bosco Constantine: focus
[18:35]  Brianna Beresford: sory I thought only one name went in
[18:35]  Bosco Constantine: Crap is on the board
[18:35]  Apple MacKay: oh
[18:35]  Crap Mariner: i'd prefer not. i work best from the shadows.
[18:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah we have real estate in the program to list out key coordinators, shouldn't be an issue
[18:35]  Apple MacKay: lol
[18:35]  Bosco Constantine: anyone else for marketing?
[18:36]  Doubledown Tandino: im here to be a "street team" so, im on the helpout team for that
[18:36]  Kyle Beltran: do you have any ideas for that position, Crap?
[18:36]  Bosco Constantine: got you bro
[18:36]  Bosco Constantine: Crap why not co chair with someone
[18:36]  Apple MacKay: I am not sure of everyones skillz here... anyone have ninja skillz?
[18:36]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: btw.. marketing person would most likey at points liason with me.. SLCC marketing chica, etc... and we also are finalizing a central sponsorship person that will be part of the mix
[18:36]  Bosco Constantine: who is the marketing person that spoke out before
[18:36]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: Eva
[18:36]  Bosco Constantine: Rhiannon why don't you co-duty with Crap?
[18:36]  Nasus Dumart: I would like to be on the sponsorship team
[18:37]  RoseDrop Rust: I can grind out bizarre copy.
[18:37]  Bosco Constantine: Sponsorship is going to be under marketing
[18:37]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I will work with him.. but am on the board officially and their marketing peep
[18:37]  Apple MacKay: its way bigger than bizarre copy
[18:37]  Bosco Constantine: nods
[18:37]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: Eva said she had marketing skills
[18:37]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so I will end up working with.. just not directly on issues that say might pertain to music stuffs
[18:37]  Bosco Constantine: k
[18:37]  EvaMoon Ember: I do, but this is my first SLCC. I don't know ANYTHING about it.
[18:37]  Crap Mariner: Agreed. Eva - your experience with coordinating the annual festivals applies, yes?
[18:37]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: like I imagine you guys will have more marketing to get out specially in regards to performance stuff
[18:38]  Bosco Constantine: Marketing is going to get sponsors, promote in SL and RL
[18:38]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: exactly
[18:38]  Apple MacKay: official sponsorship form needs to be drafted,, you need to come up with a marketting budget
[18:38]  Apple MacKay: etc
[18:38]  Kyle Beltran: we need CLOSERS!
[18:38]  Kyle Beltran: coffee's for CLOSERS!
[18:38]  Apple MacKay: exactly
[18:38]  EvaMoon Ember: I don't have experience with getting sponsors
[18:38]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so you know all... SLCC has official sponsorship documents and a process for that
[18:38]  Doubledown Tandino: did we just go glengary up in here?
[18:38]  Kyle Beltran: hehehe
[18:38]  Apple MacKay: lol
[18:38]  Mia Kitchensink: I have been trying to find sponsors and then I direct them on to Nasus, Apple, Katy. Glad to keep doing that for the marketing person.
[18:38]  Bosco Constantine: Rhiannon and Crap sound like a good team if your up to it?
[18:39]  Edward Lowell: how much money does it take up front to be a sponsor?
[18:39]  Nasus Dumart: I have a hot lead for sponsorship - will talk with you about that Rhiannon
[18:39]  Crap Mariner: I prefer to be free-roaming between the groups as needed.
[18:39]  Edward Lowell: are there guildelines for that ?
[18:39]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so unless you are also going to seek out a specific sponsor for say a special event or for musician travel/expenses.. general sponsorships get eventually funneled that way
[18:39]  Bosco Constantine: k
[18:39]  Bosco Constantine: We need someone who can co- with Rhiannon?
[18:39]  Apple MacKay: understood
[18:39]  Apple MacKay: can I report to myself?
[18:39]  Bosco Constantine: learn how to do it for next year
[18:40]  EvaMoon Ember: lol
[18:40]  Bosco Constantine: Mia?
[18:40]  Lyndon Heart: good question... who is the person Apple connects to on the SLCC board?
[18:40]  Mia Kitchensink: I have the time but no experience
[18:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: ... I technically can't be the music track marketing.. since I am on the board.. but will end up working with whoever from your track for anything SLCC directly can help with
[18:40]  Bosco Constantine: time is a great thing for that
[18:40]  Apple MacKay: I nominate Nasus!
[18:40]  Bosco Constantine: Nasus?
[18:40]  Bosco Constantine: you up for it?
[18:40]  Lyndon Heart: I second
[18:40]  Nasus Dumart: thanks Apple
[18:40]  Doubledown Tandino: maybe you'll only wanna book performers that come with RL sponsors?
[18:41]  Doubledown Tandino: so their sponsors pay for everything?
[18:41]  Bosco Constantine: that sucks Double
[18:41]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha
[18:41]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well once the tracks are in place, not just music but the key ones, we will be having regular touch point meetings you would be at Apple..
[18:41]  EvaMoon Ember: I wouldn't favor that
[18:41]  Doubledown Tandino: lol, maybe, just askin
[18:41]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we would also get you a official email addy and you can then interface with the board directly and so can reach out to whichever contact makes seense
[18:41]  Doubledown Tandino: i could def see it totally sucking... or if a musician has a great solid sponsorship already, that's less hunting for more
[18:41]  Apple MacKay: So Nasus can you work with Crap and Rhiannon?
[18:41]  Lyndon Heart: I can try to get Metamucil as a sponsor ;-)
[18:42]  Nasus Dumart: I have a head start on it - I'd be happy to work with them
[18:42]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: most overarching things will end up being addressed to Nex or me I would think
[18:42]  Kyle Beltran: really, the marketing team has the hardest job here, and I think they are solely responsible for finding the bread to get performers paid
[18:42]  Apple MacKay: agreed
[18:42]  Bosco Constantine: so are we good here
[18:42]  Kyle Beltran: travel, rooms, and a reasonable fee
[18:43]  Bosco Constantine: k
[18:43]  Lyndon Heart: I believe we are
[18:43]  Bosco Constantine: next is performace
[18:43]  Apple MacKay: Lyndon and Cyl were nominated
[18:43]  Bosco Constantine: this will involve BOTH SLCC as well as pre and after parties
[18:43]  Lyndon Heart: as was Katy
[18:43]  Lyndon Heart: correct?
[18:44]  Apple MacKay: I thought Katy was Panels
[18:44]  Bosco Constantine: and we should not be renting places - they should be paying us to show up at their bar and provide entertainemtn
[18:44]  Lyndon Heart: ah
[18:44]  Mia Kitchensink: right
[18:44]  Katydid Something: Acually the musicians should run that thrack
[18:44]  Bosco Constantine: so if you don't know how to book IRL
[18:44]  Mia Kitchensink: it was quite a crowd last year
[18:44]  Bosco Constantine: please don't
[18:44]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: exaclty Bosco
[18:44]  Bosco Constantine: i'll be happy to jump on this one
[18:44]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: should never pay to play
[18:44]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there will also be performance opportunites at the hotel itself
[18:44]  EvaMoon Ember: agreed
[18:44]  Doubledown Tandino: play to drink maybe
[18:45]  RoseDrop Rust: I payed a kid to listen once.
[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhiannon: can you expand a bit, pls?
[18:45]  Lyndon Heart: that could get ugly
[18:45]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and depending on how our evening events shape up, even the possibility of a showcase one night
[18:45]  Crap Mariner: i would think performances during lunch as well as maybe morning breakfasts at bar piano, etc.
[18:45]  Kyle Beltran: a working pro in the SF area would be an indispensible liason
[18:45]  Kyle Beltran: Keiko?
[18:45]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha
[18:45]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: precisely Crap plenty of openings
[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior nods at Crap, hoping that's what rhiannon can possibly confirm as we discussed it last meeting as a hopeful
[18:45]  Jana Kyomoon: thanks everyone - i'm in the wrong place LOL Cheers!! byebye
[18:45]  Crap Mariner: any opportunity to slip in a musician and get the material out, do it.
[18:45]  Takamura Keiko: Hrrm? My name was said?
[18:46]  Lyndon Heart: Keiko?
[18:46]  Crap Mariner: (no, your name is keiko *rimshot*)
[18:46]  Feline Slade: I have to run, but I'll look for the transcript when Apple posts it.
[18:46]  Kyle Beltran: yes, you know the clubs in SF, right, Keiko?
[18:46]  RoseDrop Rust: Keiko was tweeting.
[18:46]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well meaning, we are going to go over the schedule as an overall entity, so we can work fitting in maybe some perofrmances between and around things
[18:46]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:46]  Bosco Constantine: Keiko doesn't have to run it
[18:46]  Kyle Beltran: Pato Milo books events there with SL people constantly
[18:46]  Apple MacKay: thanks Feline
[18:46]  Bosco Constantine: we need coordinators not resource people at this stage
[18:46]  RoseDrop Rust: I trust Pato.
[18:46]  Bosco Constantine: you have to be able to coordinate
[18:46]  Kyle Beltran: I do too, Rose
[18:46]  Bosco Constantine: and link to people in the city
[18:46]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: the way the hotel is set up, there will be 4 rooms that are panel/track foscued, 2 smaller workshop rooms
[18:47]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then a central ballroom
[18:47]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so the idea is that the central ballroom would be a best of conference sort of mix of all tracks
[18:47]  Crap Mariner: Rhiannon - Restaurant at the hotel with performance space? Bar? Piano bar in lobby that can be used similar to Chicago?
[18:47]  SeanMcPherson Senior listens to Rhi's description so we have a better idea of what we might need to coordinate *for* :)
[18:47]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so depending on what makes sense there will be larger draw things in there, like keynotes, etc and room for performances and networking events, etc.
[18:48]  Crap Mariner: Can we get a loop of the giveaway CD piped into the elevators as well?
[18:48]  Bosco Constantine: its 10 til... who wants to run this
[18:48]  Bosco Constantine: we are getting off track
[18:48]  Bosco Constantine: Performance
[18:48]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there is an on site restaurant.. would have to double check on that but would think it most likely could be booked... not a definite til we check
[18:48]  Nasus Dumart: great idea, Crap
[18:48]  RoseDrop Rust: Is it true there is no "performance" room?
[18:48]  Apple MacKay: lets go long if everyone is ok with that
[18:48]  Kyle Beltran: I think it been made pretty clear we like Cyl and Lyndon, Bosco
[18:48]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Cyl and Lyndon were nominated as co chairs, did we miss anyone else?
[18:48]  EvaMoon Ember: bosco's right. we're getting into detials
[18:48]  Crap Mariner: I agree that Cyl and Lyndon will work well together with performance side.
[18:48]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure on the elevator music ;) .. but there are central screens throughout the conference area that we can put media on btw
[18:48]  Apple MacKay: Bosco
[18:48]  EvaMoon Ember: focus
[18:48]  Katydid Something: I looked at the lounge and it is pretty upscale
[18:48]  RoseDrop Rust: OK
[18:48]  SeanMcPherson Senior: they're both professionals and capable of coordinating with any number of local and remote resources, I'd say?
[18:49]  Mia Kitchensink: Cyl and Lyndon are great to me
[18:49]  RoseDrop Rust: I for Cyl and Eva.
[18:49]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: we worked well together last year
[18:49]  Brianna Beresford: They did a great job last year
[18:49]  chief Inglewood: I live in the San Francisco Bay Area And have rl events here
[18:49]  Katydid Something: the others are restaurants
[18:49]  Bosco Constantine: we just need a coordinator
[18:49]  Bosco Constantine: everyeone can help
[18:49]  EvaMoon Ember: right
[18:49]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: we shouldn't be talking details yet
[18:49]  Bosco Constantine: there is enough work to go around
[18:49]  Brianna Beresford: Can't they be co-coordinators
[18:49]  Bosco Constantine: they can
[18:49]  Apple MacKay: Cheif can you report to the co-chairs in that localized capacity?
[18:49]  Bosco Constantine: anyone opposed?
[18:49]  chief Inglewood: just let me know what is needed
[18:50]  EvaMoon Ember: so are the options Lyndon, Cyl and Bosco? Are we choosing one?
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: no
[18:50]  chief Inglewood: sure
[18:50]  Brianna Beresford: or two
[18:50]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Cyl, you and Lyndon want to split the load, since it's a pretty dramatic one?
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: let them run it
[18:50]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: once chairs are decided we can move forward on the details
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: we are taking forever to decide a point person
[18:50]  Katydid Something: Don't forget Ham!
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: let them run it
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: we have a ton of help they can use
[18:50]  Apple MacKay: thats cool Bosco... they improved it in Tampa and did an awesome job
[18:50]  RoseDrop Rust: Cyl and Lyndon?
[18:50]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes I am sure Ham will help out
[18:50]  RoseDrop Rust: Good?
[18:50]  Katydid Something: he has already worked on a party and secured a bar
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: k
[18:50]  Bosco Constantine: Panels
[18:50]  EvaMoon Ember: all in favor of Lyndon and cyle say aye
[18:51]  Brianna Beresford: aye
[18:51]  Apple MacKay: aye
[18:51]  Mia Kitchensink: aye
[18:51]  Edward Lowell: aye
[18:51]  Katydid Something: aue
[18:51]  EvaMoon Ember: aye
[18:51]  Nasus Dumart: aye
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: ate
[18:51]  Kyle Beltran: aye aye cap'n
[18:51]  Bosco Constantine: Who wants to point this up - PANELS
[18:51]  RoseDrop Rust: Anyone disagree?
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: *cough* (aye)
[18:51]  EvaMoon Ember: opposed say nay
[18:51]  EvaMoon Ember: ok then
[18:51]  Lyndon Heart: Ok.. we can probably do it.. I'm close to SF here in Seattle and with the help of Kieko and Chief working in town .. it should work well
[18:51]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: are all those that have been nominated and picked happy with their appointments.. just to confirm
[18:51]  RoseDrop Rust: Yay!
[18:51]  Brianna Beresford: Katy should be
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Panels, is this Katy propsed, IIRC?
[18:51]  chief Inglewood: i want to be on a pannel as well
[18:51]  Bosco Constantine: Katy would be great
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: Katy you want help / co coordinator?
[18:52]  Bosco Constantine: NP chief
[18:52]  chief Inglewood: ty
[18:52]  Katydid Something: please!
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: Bosco?
[18:52]  Bosco Constantine: you can be on more than one subcomittee for sure
[18:52]  Bosco Constantine: i do whatever
[18:52]  EvaMoon Ember: we're just talking about chairs now, anyone can help after that
[18:52]  RoseDrop Rust: I might be helpful on a panel.
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: help Katy
[18:52]  Bosco Constantine: i'll do it
[18:52]  Brianna Beresford: I would help on a panel
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: thats my feeling
[18:52]  Bosco Constantine: np
[18:52]  Lyndon Heart: we'll probably all be on panels Chief ;-)
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: you both have great experience
[18:52]  Kyle Beltran: my GOD, I think we have almost ALL the chairs!
[18:52]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I imagine panels for the music track will work as sort of mini processes as ourp roposals.. cept you are giving them to Katy
[18:52]  RoseDrop Rust: OK
[18:53]  Bosco Constantine: anyone else?
[18:53]  EvaMoon Ember: are there any other nominations for panels chair?
[18:53]  Bosco Constantine: then its settled?
[18:53]  Katydid Something: We will folds with expertisce fot the panels
[18:53]  EvaMoon Ember: any opposed to katy?
[18:53]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Aye for katy!
[18:53]  Apple MacKay: Aye
[18:53]  Lyndon Heart: aye Kate
[18:53]  Nasus Dumart: aye
[18:53]  Amy Ferguson: aye
[18:53]  Mia Kitchensink: aye
[18:53]  EvaMoon Ember: aye
[18:53]  Crap Mariner: aye
[18:53]  Bosco Constantine: since we have the 3 main groups
[18:53]  Brianna Beresford: aye
[18:54]  Bosco Constantine: we should set up the google group
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yay
[18:54]  Bosco Constantine: for people to sign up to help under those groups
[18:54]  chief Inglewood: aye
[18:54]  Edward Lowell: aye
[18:54]  Apple MacKay: agreed
[18:54]  Bosco Constantine: get some subcommittees together
[18:54]  Mia Kitchensink: good idea
[18:54]  Katydid Something: agreed
[18:54]  Bosco Constantine: and this should be our last HUGE meeeting for a while
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: you can work within the frameworks of the google group now.. or we can set up an additional one for this planning
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we did this for biz track so you know
[18:54]  EvaMoon Ember: let each chair decide what subcommittees they want
[18:54]  Bosco Constantine: each sub should have their own sub google groups
[18:55]  Katydid Something: those who want to volunteer should let the group leaders know
[18:55]  Bosco Constantine: so we don't flood the main
[18:55]  Apple MacKay: I would like to possibly add Bosco as my special assistant/ counsel?
[18:55]  Bosco Constantine: that way we don't have a cluster fuck
[18:55]  Brianna Beresford: I agree only critical messages to the main
[18:55]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[18:55]  Apple MacKay: I need his experience at the top levels
[18:55]  Katydid Something: so you are suggesting 3 seperate groups?
[18:55]  Katydid Something: or sub groups?
[18:55]  Bosco Constantine: each chair can decide
[18:55]  Crap Mariner: those that set up the sub groups - please add me to each. i will be helping with all three when needed.
[18:55]  Bosco Constantine: but sub forums basically
[18:55]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: are you meaing google groups or SL groups
[18:56]  Bosco Constantine: google
[18:56]  Katydid Something: Thanks Crap@
[18:56]  EvaMoon Ember: would someone please reiterate the final chairs?
[18:56]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and I would think they could be handled under the umbrella of one.. all depends on how confusing multiple would be
[18:56]  Apple MacKay: google will be our main contact arena
[18:56]  Katydid Something: fingers don't work tonight
[18:56]  Bosco Constantine: and feel free to sign up for as many groups as you can help out with tonight
[18:56]  Edward Lowell: Apple .. in my opinion .. you choose your team
[18:56]  Apple MacKay: with docs and all it is priceless
[18:56]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we set up 2 for the bix.. the inner organizers one.. and a general those part of the track or a panelist, etc
[18:56]  Crap Mariner: agreed on google
[18:56]  Bosco Constantine: Apple its your team man
[18:56]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: ooops biz even
[18:56]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: business track
[18:56]  Bosco Constantine: agreed Edward
[18:57]  Apple MacKay: so yeah I am asking you Bosco to be my right hand Man
[18:57]  Apple MacKay: so to speak
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha whatever man
[18:57]  Apple MacKay: :)
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: i just want this crap to go off organized
[18:57]  Apple MacKay: same here
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: which most of the crap in SL doesn't
[18:57]  Katydid Something: I'll be hitting you all up for your areas of expertise@
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: don't tap the back
[18:57]  Crap Mariner: i find myself the rare exception
[18:57]  Bosco Constantine: i aint like that
[18:57]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: Bosco...its already more organized than precvous years, man...chill
[18:57]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[18:57]  Crap Mariner: my inventory is IMMACULATE
[18:57]  Edward Lowell: thanks Katy .. thats all I expect from this ... :)
[18:57]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod it is
[18:58]  Bosco Constantine: thats a great thing Cy
[18:58]  Bosco Constantine: = )
[18:58]  Lyndon Heart: yeah.. were months ahead already
[18:58]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: it really is
[18:58]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i'm really excited about his year
[18:58]  Bosco Constantine: when I was at LL they didn't always know what was going on
[18:58]  RoseDrop Rust: I make it to most of my shows.
[18:58]  Mia Kitchensink: me too
[18:58]  Bosco Constantine: it was interesting
[18:58]  Apple MacKay: I really appreciate everyones enthusiasm so far this is going well so far
[18:58]  Kyle Beltran: Well, lucky for us, they don't have much to do with this, Bsco
[18:58]  Bosco Constantine: is there a way we can clean up the google groups a bit
[18:58]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah that is another long term aspect.. how to keep the momentum and info going post SLCC
[18:59]  Mia Kitchensink: I am good at momentum, lol
[18:59]  Apple MacKay: same
[18:59]  Bosco Constantine: invite a ton of people who can help
[18:59]  Nasus Dumart: yes you are Mia
[18:59]  Crap Mariner: Those that are worried this took an hour to get settled, keep in mind... we are way ahead of the game by comparison to other years. I have confidence the lead team will get this rolling forward and we'll all have a hand in making this a success.
[18:59]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so that people know what is up with all this great content and groups and we develop more of a long term community to pull from
[18:59]  Bosco Constantine: get into your groups and hit up your friends in world... there is a ton of talent in SL we can use
[18:59]  Rhiannon Chatnoir hugs you all :)
[18:59]  Kyle Beltran feels better
[18:59]  Bosco Constantine: i think we did pretty well
[18:59]  Bosco Constantine: for a group this size
[18:59]  Mia Kitchensink: hugs
[19:00]  EvaMoon Ember: I'm looking forward to signing up for committees
[19:00]  Bosco Constantine: and text the only communication
[19:00]  chief Inglewood: B.E.T WILL BE HERE ON MAY 30
[19:00]  EvaMoon Ember: this was great, really
[19:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Man, if only we had someone who'd written a book about SL, some professional musicians, and great marketing and organizers...
[19:00]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so feel free to friend me or email me or poke me on the slcc-music group
[19:00]  Crap Mariner: Plus, there's probably more folks out there wanting to lend a hand, have a part, toss in an idea that none of us could possibly imagine. Keep an ear out for such people who do not realize their potential.
[19:00]  Bosco Constantine: i would suggest skype though for subcommettee meetings though ah ha
[19:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: where can we FIND such a mix of talents?!
[19:00]  Crap Mariner: (Even if they won't be at SLCC at all)
[19:00]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Apple we need to get you a email addy and any other things you need to start the process
[19:00]  Bosco Constantine: they don't have to be there to help organize it
[19:00]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah I agree Crap
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: ok
[19:01]  Bosco Constantine: leaders need to put on that contact list in the google doc so we can get it out to the world
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: dm me
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: or whatever you want
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: you have my email etc
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you want me on any google docs.. share me in via
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod nod Apple
[19:01]  Crap Mariner: (And if anyone feels frustrated or angry over anything, take a deep breath, relax, and BLAME SEAN!)
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:01]  EvaMoon Ember: lol
[19:02]  chief Inglewood: THAT IS A GOOD IDEAL
[19:02]  Bosco Constantine: Always Sean's fault
[19:02]  Takamura Keiko: Can do!
[19:02]  Bosco Constantine: its in the notes
[19:02]  Apple MacKay: everyoe friend the folks around you if they arent on your list
[19:02]  Takamura Keiko: Sean's my favorite scapegoat.
[19:02]  RoseDrop Rust: Nobody move. some stole my clown nose.
[19:02]  Bosco Constantine: and prepare for the group spam from he ha ha
[19:02]  Apple MacKay: afk 1 minute... brb
[19:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Cyl.. how are you not my friend.. gasp.. after all these years :P
[19:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: it amazes me sometimes people I think that are
[19:03]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: I was firends with your alt
[19:03]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hhahaha
[19:03]  Crap Mariner quietly defriends... heh heh heh VOLCANO TIME!
[19:03]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior is just a geek of all trades, so I'll be available for folks who can use any skills/time i have.
[19:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior: God knows I won't be performing ;P
[19:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior: But Cyl and Lyndon can vouch for my pack mule skills, I guess.
[19:03]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: but you better wear your KILT
[19:03]  Bosco Constantine: i'll be playing - the snooze alarm maybe
[19:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Cyl: I have new kilts, for this year
[19:03]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: and i'll make you dance
[19:03]  Mia Kitchensink: dancing in a kilt is a good performance
[19:03]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: fabulous
[19:04]  Lyndon Heart: I've got my one but I'll be wearin it ;-
[19:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I don't have time ot learn to do another fling *and* get my calluses back on my guitar, cyl
[19:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Lyndon, *one* seriously, cmon
[19:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I'm gonna have 2 per day with me.
[19:04]  Lyndon Heart: it reversable
[19:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Um, hey quick Q?
[19:04]  Lyndon Heart: so counts as two
[19:05]  Apple MacKay: yup
[19:05]  SeanMcPherson Senior: just because the frigging bots.
[19:05]  SeanMcPherson Senior: k, thanks.
[19:05]  EvaMoon Ember: can we put them in an unbottable doc
[19:05]  Apple MacKay: I'll put a blur on them like on "cops"
[19:05]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah i would add the addy's to a group contact shared doc.. and strike them from the 'official' record :P
[19:05]  Takamura Keiko: Hahah
[19:05]  EvaMoon Ember: I figured peeps were putting them out there so we'd have them
[19:05]  Apple MacKay: thats fine we'll just protect them Eva
[19:06]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: gives you a good base for contacts and for google doc sharing :)
[19:06]  Apple MacKay: aso are we ready to adjourn or do you all wanna go longere?
[19:06]  Apple MacKay looks at fingers
[19:06]  RoseDrop Rust: I like you folks.
[19:06]  RoseDrop Rust: Let's talk.
[19:06]  EvaMoon Ember: oh, we might want to add a google calendar to the mix for deadlines and such
[19:06]  Apple MacKay: great idea
[19:07]  Nasus Dumart nods
[19:07]  RoseDrop Rust: I never get to. always too busy.
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: is Pulaski still taking submissions for tracks till the 15th or do they go to someone else now?
[19:07]  Bosco Constantine: subcomittees need to start having meetings in about a week
[19:07]  Apple MacKay: sooner
[19:07]  Bosco Constantine: and we need to have a steering committee meeting before that
[19:07]  Bosco Constantine: so we can chart goals for each committee
[19:07]  Apple MacKay: agreed
[19:07]  SeanMcPherson Senior notes he will be out of the country until the 17th and will have nothing but satphone access :)
[19:07]  Katydid Something: Mia I will be coordinating them now
[19:07]  Bosco Constantine: so they know what they are having meeetings about
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: ok
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: so if they meet next wed
[19:08]  Apple MacKay: I'll chat with the coordinators
[19:08]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So have another temporary scapegoat
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: we should meet before that
[19:08]  SeanMcPherson Senior: :)
[19:08]  Apple MacKay: and we'll post up on the group
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: yup
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: next formal step to SLCC is to get your ideas together and submit the proposal
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: there are a few things that don't fall into any committee
[19:08]  Apple MacKay: there will be 3 specific meetings in the near future
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: like setup and tech teams
[19:08]  RoseDrop Rust: I would like to propose a panel on mixing live RL/SL performance, podcasting, and how that can expand what is offered in SL.
[19:08]  Apple MacKay: one for each focus
[19:08]  chief Inglewood: I will love to meet with my group on skype or gmail chat asap
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: it has a good base to it.. so flesh from there and Apple can snd it back
[19:08]  Bosco Constantine: Edward would be great to help out with that
[19:09]  Kyle Beltran: I have a panel I call "Bukowski's Epitaph" :)
[19:09]  Bosco Constantine: don't want to forget chords or mics ha ha
[19:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol Kyle
[19:09]  Edward Lowell: you bet .. and we'll see where we can go with it
[19:09]  Kyle Beltran: no, I really do :)
[19:09]  Bosco Constantine: i think we can really push this and have a great time
[19:09]  Mia Kitchensink: yes
[19:10]  Apple MacKay: I must say I am honored to have your confidence and I'll continue to do my best toward making this a success
[19:10]  Nasus Dumart: i agree - it's going to be really well done
[19:10]  Bosco Constantine: anyone in SF that can go by this hotel and get footage or take pictures of the room we will have
[19:10]  Mia Kitchensink: ;D very exciting
[19:10]  Crap Mariner: Dream of ideas, keep a notepad on hand at all time, write them down, no matter how silly. Nobody knows what will strike and when.
[19:10]  Brianna Beresford: this is going to be a great track
[19:10]  Bosco Constantine: we need some floor plans too
[19:10]  Bosco Constantine: so we know setup
[19:10]  Bosco Constantine: that will dictate alot
[19:10]  chief Inglewood: i can go by there this week end
[19:10]  EvaMoon Ember: this is all committee stuff
[19:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes
[19:11]  SeanMcPherson Senior makes a note to start working on a highland fling. Erk. I'm gonna need a good
[19:11]  Katydid Something: yea, and I'm ready for a cocktail!
[19:11]  Bosco Constantine: if you could upload that to youtube and shoot us a link that would great if you get video
[19:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we can share with you all Nex's diagram and some videos of the flow of the space
[19:11]  Edward Lowell: I'll be in SF next month .. I'll stop in and see what its all about
[19:11]  Brianna Beresford: Nite all I am willing to help wherever I can
[19:11]  SeanMcPherson Senior: wait, apple, we didn't say we had confidence, just that we thoguht you were a big enough sucker to agree to this dog and pony show! :P
[19:11]  Bosco Constantine: awesome
[19:11]  Bosco Constantine: the more eyes on it the better
[19:11]  Katydid Something: Night Brianna, Thanks!
[19:11]  chief Inglewood: so you want me to video the room and the hall way
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: thanks again Sean
[19:11]  Bosco Constantine: i'm not flying out there for a walk-though
[19:11]  Lyndon Heart: I'd like a copy Rhiann
[19:11]  SeanMcPherson Senior: :)
[19:12]  Bosco Constantine: and the ball room too
[19:12]  Crap Mariner: TY Apple. It's going to be a lot of work, and a lot of headaches. We'll be glad to give you more ;) j/k
[19:12]  Bosco Constantine: if you could
[19:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I also have some further questions regarding set up for the larger evening performances and and funneled through Apple we can sort those types of venue questions
[19:12]  Bosco Constantine: so we know what we have to work with
[19:12]  Bosco Constantine: k
[19:12]  Edward Lowell: we'll see what we need to capture and do it :)
[19:12]  Apple MacKay: excelent Chief
[19:12]  Bosco Constantine: you need to count how many outlets in a room too
[19:12]  EvaMoon Ember: ok all. gotta run. good stuff and kudoes to everyone
[19:13]  chief Inglewood: Bosco that was a greatoutline
[19:13]  Bosco Constantine: where they are located ect.
[19:13]  Katydid Something: Bye Eva!
[19:13]  EvaMoon Ember: bye!
[19:13]  Bosco Constantine: laters eva
[19:13]  Edward Lowell: Id like one too Rhiannon :)
[19:13]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Nex, Rhiannon, silly Q?
[19:13]  Bosco Constantine: thnx chief
[19:13]  chief Inglewood: bye eva
[19:13]  SeanMcPherson Senior: How good do we think the bandwidth out there is going ot be this year?
[19:13]  Bosco Constantine: ouch - good Question
[19:13]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: NO kidding...that's one of my concerns
[19:14]  chief Inglewood: sf has a lot of internet cafes
[19:14]  Apple MacKay: same here
[19:14]  chief Inglewood: all over the place
[19:14]  Bosco Constantine: well if we want to do video - we will need a pipe
[19:14]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: we're talking about the hotel chief
[19:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well as part of us bargaining between many hotels we have at least free inernet for hotel guests who book through our block of rooms.. which that has never happened
[19:14]  Katydid Something sees a sponsor JUST for bandwidth
[19:14]  Apple MacKay: fat pipe
[19:14]  chief Inglewood: lol
[19:14]  chief Inglewood: sorry
[19:14]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: in previous years its has been an issue
[19:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there is internet services on site and a contracted media company for that stuff
[19:14]  chief Inglewood: I can find out
[19:14]  Crap Mariner: whoever needs me, you know where i am. lost in my thoughts. ;)
[19:14]  Bosco Constantine: i don't want to spend money
[19:14]  Bosco Constantine: i'm a tight ass
[19:14]  Bosco Constantine: i just want it to work
[19:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are working on sorting what that will be.. so you know conference internet was one of our single biggest line items last year
[19:14]  Bosco Constantine: for cheap
[19:15]  Kyle Beltran will be there, too
[19:15]  Crap Mariner: i love spending money. my ass is as loose as a prison bitch.
[19:15]  Katydid Something: I got your number Crap!
[19:15]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i'm just broke bosco
[19:15]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hahhahaah
[19:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but we hope it ends up sorting out better
[19:15]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:15]  Nasus Dumart: lol Crap
[19:15]  Bosco Constantine: we are planning on video casting this into SL
[19:15]  Katydid Something: Hi Filthy@
[19:15]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Bosco: fast, reliable, cheap. Pick 2.
[19:15]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: crap...what did you drink tonight? too much oil?
[19:15]  RoseDrop Rust: I just want to be as cool as the rest of you.
[19:15]  Bosco Constantine: so i will need about 300kbs for that alone
[19:15]  Mia Kitchensink: Hey Filthy
[19:15]  Nasus Dumart: heya Filthy!
[19:15]  chief Inglewood: do we need entertaintment
[19:15]  Apple MacKay: Crap can I interest you in a fine PIMA cotton golf shirt?
[19:15]  Filthy Fluno: howdy
[19:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and Chief.. or anyone else, we have teh signed contract with the hotel, so higher org stuff should and needs to go through us
[19:15]  Apple MacKay: Sup FF
[19:15]  Crap Mariner: i love my shift
[19:16]  chief Inglewood: ok
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I can't imagine the hotel would think it cool to send droves of others in.. just muddies things
[19:16]  Bosco Constantine: no Rhi
[19:16]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhiannon: do we have a guaranteed bandwidth provision in place, already, and if so, does it have QoS capability?
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but.. if you want to go grab photos.. feel free to sneak by
[19:16]  Filthy Fluno: hey apple.. thanks for the tp
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that isn't soo bad
[19:16]  Apple MacKay: np
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: just questions about services have to get routed through to the hotel contacts
[19:16]  Apple MacKay: thanks for asking
[19:17]  Bosco Constantine: good to have you on Rhi =
[19:17]  Bosco Constantine: )
[19:17]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: would have to reread over the contract
[19:17]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Most hotels that I've worked w/ for events involving bandwidth have 1 group that manages bandwidth; some are flexible, some aren't. (I design and build internet data centers for a living, and have operated internet service provider lines since 1990 or so, and event 'static locations' are tough)
[19:17]  Apple MacKay: you know there was concern over our target audience
[19:17]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: ok..i have to scoot...beth's warming up the violin in the studio and i gotta soundcheck us
[19:17]  Filthy Fluno: hi cyl
[19:17]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: hi filthy man!!!!
[19:17]  Filthy Fluno: hi mia
[19:18]  Mia Kitchensink: bye cyl.
[19:18]  Bosco Constantine: later
[19:18]  Filthy Fluno: hi katy
[19:18]  Nasus Dumart: okies - bye Cyl!
[19:18]  Mia Kitchensink: hi
[19:18]  Filthy Fluno: hi nasus
[19:18]  Apple MacKay: I think musicians, DJ's and Comics are all game
[19:18]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: you came in as i has to leave, my brotha
[19:18]  Nasus Dumart waves to FF
[19:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so you all know.. we had a hairy bit of time getting a hotel, we had initially secured the Marriott based on using them last year, but then with the propoistion 8 voting and sentiments on Marriott and community members expressing concerns.. we basically went out to ALL hotels in San Fran that could hold 1000 people
[19:18]  Apple MacKay: understood
[19:18]  Mia Kitchensink: looks like a nice one
[19:18]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i'm out y'all...see you soon.
[19:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so in some ways we had to rethink some space things.. but the Westin is the best of what we had between them cost and otherwise
[19:18]  Apple MacKay: tc Cyl
[19:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod.. it is very historic
[19:19]  Apple MacKay: thanks for being a part of this
[19:19]  SeanMcPherson Senior: telcos usually like term contracts, and hotels tend ot be managing just the common business vpn traveller, NOT our style of loads. that said, maybe we can get a local ISP involved who can use their existing contarcts that allow move - to -site contracts for a short term, or high volume wireless in town. I'll see what I can poke out of the woodwork.
[19:19]  Mia Kitchensink: looks like a great place on the internet
[19:19]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: my pleasure apple
[19:19]  Apple MacKay: :)
[19:19]  Katydid Something: Night Cyl!
[19:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: do you know, beyond the Moscone.. which can hold craploads.. there are only 4 hotels in San Fran that can hold 1000 people events
[19:19]  Mia Kitchensink: interesting
[19:19]  Mia Kitchensink: and the rates are nice
[19:20]  Filthy Fluno: any bites from universities or colleges in the area to host something?
[19:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah.. had fun going over this with the Visitors beaureau
[19:20]  SeanMcPherson Senior: when I get back from this trip, I'lm more than willing to hook up with whoever had the PoC for the hotel internet and assist in seeing if there are options, although my schedule will preclude me form being 'point' on tracking something down plus I'm wayyyy over here in Kentucky)
[19:20]  Apple MacKay: so haow many are expected Rhi?
[19:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well the Exploratorium is going to host an open house.. they are the sciene museum
[19:20]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha i'm in new orleans ha ha
[19:20]  Nasus Dumart: sorry - i keep crashing - Apple keeps taking my bandwidth
[19:21]  chief Inglewood: i love that place
[19:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but no ed venues so far Filthy
[19:21]  Filthy Fluno: ok rhiannon.. thanks for letting me know
[19:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure if anyone has any university contacts.. I can ask the Exploratorium contact if he knows or has any
[19:21]  Nasus Dumart: so - if Apple did not already ask - how many are expected at the SLCC this year?
[19:21]  Bosco Constantine: more than a few
[19:21]  Bosco Constantine: less than a ton
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well last year we had about 600, in 2007 we had a bit over 900
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we have room in the large ballroom to fit 1200
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and are hoping to get closer back to 2007's numbers
[19:22]  Katydid Something: And we have to talk up the music track and get our own people there!
[19:22]  Nasus Dumart: right
[19:22]  SeanMcPherson Senior: anyone know what bandwidth the hotel in Chicago had?
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we tried to keep costs down.. in some ways that hotel incident allowed for us to have competition on bigging.. thus the better room rate
[19:22]  Filthy Fluno: i know I missed alot here... was on the road.... are there people hooking up with sponsor leads yet?
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: they had bandwidth issues that year.. the hotel messed up on teh piped in connection
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: wasn't fun
[19:23]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhi: I know. That's why I was wondering how little was 'obviously too little' :)
[19:23]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I was there *grin*
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: last year we had a contracted internet / media company
[19:23]  Kyle Beltran: Chairs for that were determined, Filthy - hey, howya doin?
[19:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure.. that year it was an internal switching problem
[19:24]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhi: *nod*
[19:24]  Filthy Fluno: good kyle
[19:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and we didnt have real networking people as a hired service or as volunteer to trouble shoot that as well
[19:24]  Katydid Something: Filthy, talk to Crap -- he's the market chair
[19:25]  Filthy Fluno: ok thanks katy
[19:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: thus the change last year to have a media company be that point service.. far more knowledgeable and their whole job to field that sort of stuff
[19:25]  Mia Kitchensink: I love to try and get sponsor interest and will keep at that. Just need to know different areas of need and amounts.
[19:25]  Katydid Something: And Filthy and anyone else who isnt' already signed in go to http://groups.google.com/group/slcc-musi
[19:25]  chief Inglewood: i contacted storm of london today
[19:26]  Bosco Constantine: i think we are goign to talk about that at the core meeting soon
[19:26]  chief Inglewood: i havae a contact there
[19:26]  Bosco Constantine: levels ect.
[19:26]  Filthy Fluno: is there any interest at this point to have an "visual artists" component to all this?
[19:26]  Katydid Something: Absolutely
[19:26]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well, the conference as a whole has financial needs to cover the costs of things.. so you know.. none of us on the board get any $ :) ... it goes to operating expenses
[19:26]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhiannon: gotcha. Well, if whoever's doing it this year can keep in mind we're looking at some video and other opportunities, maybe we give an outbound video stream it's own wimax connection in town or something (that uses it's own feed, sep from the public ones, etc) That feed could be for panel members during a presentation to be 'in world' etc.
[19:26]  Apple MacKay: there will be really soon Filthy
[19:26]  Lyndon Heart: oh yeah Filthy
[19:26]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then you guys need to parcel off sponsorship for travel expenses for performers, etc
[19:26]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Not using a single feed for Apple to be checking his stocks at the same time Katy's got a panel of folks up there trying to get info from people in world ;P
[19:26]  Filthy Fluno: ok
[19:26]  Filthy Fluno: good to know
[19:27]  Bosco Constantine: i'm bringing all the equipment to shoot the video and the laptop to stream it
[19:27]  Lyndon Heart: yeah.. we need a budget
[19:27]  Edward Lowell: and of course I have the streams
[19:27]  Bosco Constantine: i just need a sever to pump it into SL
[19:27]  Bosco Constantine: so we are good on video then
[19:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not.. do you have networking background sean
[19:27]  chief Inglewood: do we need any extra video people
[19:27]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Bosco: what video codec are you using; QT H264 streaming server or something else?
[19:27]  Nexeus Fatale: I think when you gys talk about sponsorships your really saying "how do we get there?"
[19:27]  Nexeus Fatale: and I think you need to parcel that train of thought from the SLCC sponsorship
[19:28]  Bosco Constantine: thats it
[19:28]  Nexeus Fatale: if you know anyone who would like to sponsor the convention, send them out way
[19:28]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhiannon: I do; I've been operations manager of facilities engineer for national companies since 1994 :) But I also work 80 hour weeks, so I'm available to help but not to be a primary lead.
[19:28]  Bosco Constantine: if we want multiple camera angels
[19:28]  Katydid Something: Agreed Nexeus
[19:28]  Mia Kitchensink: I gave one name to apple and katy last week
[19:28]  Bosco Constantine: we could use another operator
[19:28]  Filthy Fluno: i know someone who will do a matching funds sponsorship
[19:28]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes 2 threads of sponsorship.. ideally some of what you are thinking can go to the general SLCC conference running.. cause that makes it possible to happen
[19:28]  Filthy Fluno: but in no way want to give all that money to the overall convention
[19:28]  Edward Lowell: rtsp : / MP4 / quicktime formats
[19:29]  Takamura Keiko runs off to make dinner. Good work, everyone!
[19:29]  Bosco Constantine: h264 QT
[19:29]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then another thread for music track expenses for performers/travel/etc.
[19:29]  Mia Kitchensink: ;D
[19:29]  Bosco Constantine: rtsp://veeaudiovideo.com:554/boscolive.sdp
[19:29]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: the matching funds idea is a great concept really
[19:29]  Bosco Constantine: that is my video feed for my live shows into SL
[19:30]  Bosco Constantine: you can get it in SL or in quicktime itslef
[19:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: last year it was set up that if you didnt have x amount of $ with the panel submission with sponsorships we couldnt add you in
[19:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: in the end it all just comes down to needing some funds too.. but we dropped the whole sponsorhip associated to run content
[19:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that way we can have people focus on getting great content in the door regardless
[19:30]  Bosco Constantine: i don't want to make anything on this
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: even if i perform
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Bosco: Yeah, I've been running QT servers for several years. I'm wondering what total number of client connecitons we expect to need, and if we need to do a primary/slave system; Stream PC -> mirror master -> several mirror slaves -> watching PCs
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: just cover expenses
[19:31]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well if you are streaming in world.. that could vary
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: ah i see what your saying Sean
[19:31]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: all depends.. for my job.. I do social media/web/video/SL for Global Kdis
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: at my shows - only 40% can view the video
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: you need a good system to view it via SL
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I've done shows where we've had to cascade to a couple of dozen slaves to handle the streams; when you're doing video to thousand(s) of clients, as I've dealt with :)
[19:31]  Bosco Constantine: outside of SL its just quicktime
[19:31]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and the biggest event we did was streaming through multiple virtual worlds a United Nations event with Kofi Annan speaking
[19:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and for that we got about 300 ish people on the video stream
[19:32]  Bosco Constantine: i would say it would be 50 - 100 tops
[19:32]  Apple MacKay: if we do this right we could go way past that
[19:32]  Bosco Constantine: at one time
[19:32]  Apple MacKay: or am I dreaming
[19:32]  Bosco Constantine: dreaming
[19:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah I agree Bosco
[19:32]  Apple MacKay: lol
[19:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there are people like Jamie Otis in SL that rents video streaming services
[19:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then people like streamguys, streamhosters, etc otherwise
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: we got all the techies and the servers
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: no problems there
[19:33]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: *nod* several folks do; just wondering what people expected ot be the audience count.
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: Rhi - i do video for my shows in SL
[19:33]  Edward Lowell: <-- does the same Rhiannon
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: so we got the video down
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: we just need to get the demand in order
[19:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: now the business track as do others also wants streaming... so we can probably look at getting maybe 3 tandem feeds.. or would have to do a best of highlight single feed throughout
[19:33]  Bosco Constantine: the slave / mirror might not be a bad idea though
[19:34]  Bosco Constantine: i'm going to video feed everything music
[19:34]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: woot Edward and Bosco.. fellow video geek nerd peeps yay
[19:34]  Bosco Constantine: even the after parties at the bar
[19:34]  Apple MacKay: ok say we do a party simulacast here in dublin and artropolis and blue fusion?
[19:34]  Apple MacKay: with 2 way vid
[19:34]  RoseDrop Rust: I can help with sound and recording.
[19:34]  Apple MacKay: we'd have 150 peeps easy
[19:34]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I also have a 200 user stream at the displosal of the conference
[19:34]  Filthy Fluno: i'm down with that apple
[19:34]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and.. currently 2 sims
[19:34]  Filthy Fluno: brb
[19:34]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple: I can set up Blank Canvas.
[19:34]  Bosco Constantine: we can work details later
[19:34]  SeanMcPherson Senior: It's a full sim, unshared, and for August I'll keep the slate clear.
[19:34]  Apple MacKay: i dont think Im dreaming thats all
[19:34]  Bosco Constantine: we got the right people here to do it for usre
[19:35]  Edward Lowell: I would think we should focus on just the music track as it stands .. get that in place and see where it goes outside of it :)
[19:35]  Bosco Constantine: right
[19:35]  Edward Lowell: <--provides 1000 listener streams
[19:35]  Apple MacKay: we are a really strong team that all has our own audiences
[19:35]  chief Inglewood: i have a 1000 person audio stream
[19:35]  Bosco Constantine: ok
[19:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: think about it; we often have broken 60 avs per show for *several* of the artists who are here, much less when several of them 'gang up'.
[19:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Filthy.. btw from the curator, i picked up the old Sudo sim that was one of the first mixed reality exhibition spaces.. so want to keep that an art exhibition space and maybe we can focus the SLCC art parts there if you need room
[19:35]  Bosco Constantine: you all have big peni
[19:35]  Bosco Constantine: happy now?
[19:35]  Apple MacKay: so video could exceed 200 concurrent
[19:35]  Edward Lowell: its all I offer in SL ... and we have plenty of them to serve the music track
[19:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol..
[19:36]  Rhiannon Chatnoir doesnt have one at all actually
[19:36]  Apple MacKay: awesome Ed... Im really glad you are a part of this
[19:36]  chief Inglewood: just offering
[19:36]  Lyndon Heart: the streamteam is a fixture here in SL
[19:36]  SeanMcPherson Senior has about 4 servers that do nothing but shoutcast, and a couple of darwin boxen, but they're not going to be stuff we want to use for this.
[19:36]  Bosco Constantine: its good to have multiple streams
[19:36]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ed's the man, for professional streaming
[19:36]  Bosco Constantine: anything can happen
[19:36]  Edward Lowell: it waould my pleasure to assit with the streaming end of it :)
[19:36]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah between us we hae resources to work this.. the key is once all the needs are set up.. sorting scheduling etc.
[19:36]  Apple MacKay: and willing to support it so enthusiastically
[19:37]  Edward Lowell: my pleasure to serve
[19:37]  Bosco Constantine: if anyone wants my skype its srjohnbosco
[19:37]  Apple MacKay: I gotta say I was floored by the turn out and the ease of getting things on track tonight
[19:37]  Bosco Constantine: it wasn't easy
[19:37]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I am fairly transparent... search my SL name and find me otherwise
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: ha ha
[19:38]  RoseDrop Rust: That's great Apple!
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: it took a bit of turning
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: but with this size group it was great
[19:38]  Apple MacKay: Bosco I have been involved at a high level with burning life
[19:38]  Apple MacKay: it wasnt like this
[19:38]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah I am soo happy too btw.. am totally excited that as a group community effort this is getting organized
[19:38]  Edward Lowell: Thanks everyone for this oppportunity to hel;p ...... I have to run for now .. but we'll be l;ooking at the next level .. soon :)
[19:38]  RoseDrop Rust: Bosco, thanks for the suggestion of consensus decision making.
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: this is a good group
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: NP Rose = )
[19:38]  Bosco Constantine: thats how you build a team bro
[19:39]  Apple MacKay nods
[19:39]  Katydid Something: Thanks for coming Ed and Amy!
[19:39]  Amy Ferguson: see you soon
[19:39]  Bosco Constantine: /waves
[19:39]  Mia Kitchensink: bye Amy
[19:39]  RoseDrop Rust: So who wants to go a form a splinter group? I'll make the protest signs.
[19:40]  Bosco Constantine: only if i get to play on stage
[19:40]  Lyndon Heart: off to hear a possible performer .. let's do this again soon!
[19:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:40]  SeanMcPherson Senior is amazingly hard to find on the internet.
[19:40]  RoseDrop Rust: GTSY Lyndon!
[19:40]  Katydid Something: Night Lyndon! Thanks for being here!
[19:40]  Mia Kitchensink: I am always around and willing to help.
[19:40]  SLConvention Control: I am Peter Lokke one of the TFU board and I just have to say how wonderful it is to see how you are all so motivated and enthusiastic you all are about the convention. I think that if this level of enthusiasm continues the music track is going to be really really great!
[19:40]  Nasus Dumart searches the Internet for Sean - finds pic from SLCC 08
[19:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Sean.. might poke you with network questions
[19:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: as a FYI :P
[19:41]  Bosco Constantine: SL control ha ha
[19:41]  Bosco Constantine: nice
[19:41]  Katydid Something: Cool Peter -- appreciate the support
[19:41]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhiannon, that's fine, but it won't work for a week or so as I'm going ot be offline.
[19:41]  Bosco Constantine: there is an oxymoron SL and control
[19:41]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Unless you have a satphone number for me and a helicopter.
[19:41]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: thats ok.. just if I need a more knowledgeable brainto pick
[19:41]  RoseDrop Rust: I am just looking for a spectacular way to ruin my SL music carreer in just a few short days.
[19:42]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nope.. no sat phone nor helicopter
[19:42]  Bosco Constantine: ooo oo i got one
[19:42]  Bosco Constantine: Rose - get on cam nude
[19:42]  Bosco Constantine: oh wait that might help it....
[19:42]  Bosco Constantine: nm
[19:42]  SeanMcPherson Senior: okay, that did it for me, I'm out.
[19:42]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:42]  Bosco Constantine: later Sean
[19:42]  Mia Kitchensink: nite Sean
[19:42]  RoseDrop Rust: Ha!
[19:42]  SeanMcPherson Senior: No one's gonna blame naked artists on me, so you;'re losing your scapegoat for the night
[19:42]  SeanMcPherson Senior: gnite all!
[19:42]  SeanMcPherson Senior: :)
[19:43]  SeanMcPherson Senior: nexeus, don't forget that you have to plug the mac in from time to time; as cool as it is, it does NOT have a nuclear reactor inside.

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