July 8 SLCC09 Music Track meeting minutes

[18:06]  Apple MacKay: is everyone ready
[18:06]  Mia Kitchensink: sure
[18:07]  Crap Mariner: yeah i wore my iron pants today
[18:07]  Lyndon Heart: yep
[18:07]  Apple MacKay: I debated posting last weeks chatlog... not sure why
[18:07]  Apple MacKay: I felt it may embarass folks though
[18:07]  Apple MacKay: at any rate there was a few ruffled feathers
[18:07]  Crap Mariner: so i wasn't far off in my summary?
[18:08]  Apple MacKay: I went ahead and posted just prior to tonights meeting if you all want to read up on it
[18:08]  Apple MacKay: but I am going to continue on
[18:08]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: ok i was looking for it thanks apple
[18:09]  Apple MacKay: there have been other issues we have been trying to sort out as well
[18:09]  Apple MacKay: mainly the bandwidth requirements, SL sims to use, stuff like that
[18:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so you know we chatted over this Monday, from her point of view we realized there were misunderstandings and oddness in how things came off and when was bringing things up
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: Hopefully Rhiannon can answer a few questions tonight
[18:10]  Lyndon Heart: how? can? they do this?
[18:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but basically the breakdown really comes down to any of the say direct hotel questions like sorting bar, any food, etc comes down to having to go through us since the hotel as us as the liability and $ on record
[18:10]  Apple MacKay: Rhiannon can you bring us up to speed on that
[18:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then she had wanted to help with theme and helping with that sort of stuff.. was something I brought up earlier.. I even mentioned a few weeks back her Summer of Love idea.. a lot pased on Eva's poster and some ideas of Misty's
[18:11]  Apple MacKay: I am going to ask a few direct questions ok Rhiannon
[18:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but that is an idea.. and if that doesnt work with what you guys are sorting, then it doesnt make sense to push that .. she just wanted to help in that regard
[18:12]  Apple MacKay: I am going to quote a few statements Misty made last week
[18:12]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so tis ok, and really one of us on our end at least have to be in on the direct to hotel details, and for things that might liason with that like if we had to do tickets sales to cover expenses, etc
[18:13]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:13]  Apple MacKay: we had spoken about that a few weeks ago
[18:13]  Lyndon Heart: what's the breakdown?
[18:14]  Apple MacKay: but these are the words that were used last week ...
[18:14]  Katydid Something: Here's Edward
[18:14]  Apple MacKay: [18:02] Misty Rhodes: i would like to talk about my Saturday night event
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: otherwise, your show, your content.. mostly when we talk venue cross overs.. I think misunderstanding cause she hasn't been to all of your meetings and deep ideas going on on both side.. so I think it threw things off in what she was thinking of on her end to help
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod
[18:15]  Lyndon Heart: her?
[18:15]  Apple MacKay: [18:08] Misty Rhodes: its going to be called the TFU Love In
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: her = Misty
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: who was here last week
[18:15]  Apple MacKay: [18:08] Misty Rhodes: just throw in a few songs relevant to the theme lol
[18:08] Misty Rhodes: like one an hour at least
[18:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I was in NYC on work stuff.. so not here
[18:15]  Apple MacKay: 1st off I cant tell the musicians what to play
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: second off it was proposed as the musicians ball
[18:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, yeah, as I said... her misworded but well meaning thoughts on how to help...
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: and 3rd I thought it was our event
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: so disregard those statements
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: correct?
[18:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, yes.. your content.. we have to be involved in regards to the logistics with the hotel
[18:16]  Apple MacKay: ok
[18:17]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is the bottom line in regards to what TFU has to be.. and anything that has to to with say, bar, food, tickets sales if ther eare that go towards fund raising
[18:17]  Apple MacKay: I had mentioned via email...
[18:17]  Apple MacKay: in regards to the estimate from swank
[18:17]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and she was the contact for that btw.. so I think all of that was also part of her thinking on things to do
[18:17]  Apple MacKay: that it is all from 9 to 5
[18:18]  Apple MacKay: all rooms are booked from 9 to 5
[18:18]  Apple MacKay: no later
[18:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, that day you sent those two emails, i went around things and poked swank via email
[18:18]  Apple MacKay: is that correct?
[18:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: as I said in that.. it seems that the updated thing in regards to their updated estimate seemed to have not gone through.. I got contact info from the person who isvering for our initial contact
[18:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I am sort of poking into things since I wasn't the main contact on that.. Nex/Leo is
[18:19]  Apple MacKay: so at this point where do we stand on actually having a room with lighting and equipment to play in?
[18:19]  SeanMcPherson Senior: (Seeing as it's 30 days till the event, and we started planning 60+ days ago)
[18:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well there is the ballroom of course for the main events
[18:19]  Apple MacKay: till 5 pm
[18:20]  Apple MacKay: per the swank estimate
[18:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: our more urgent thing is that we don't even have enough ticket sales or sponsorships in order to even break even
[18:20]  Apple MacKay: yeah Id say that is an issue
[18:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so some of the tech things might go wayside.. as I brought in the email.. like making it so that the ballroom is the key tech'd up room and we have basics
[18:20]  Crap Mariner shrugs
[18:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod of course it is to all of us
[18:21]  Apple MacKay: can you be more specific... these folks are privvy to my email
[18:21]  Apple MacKay: *arent
[18:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I know you guys are bothered over last week.. that was total miscommunication and we are sorry, and yes we have to sort how to get more ticket sales and sponsorshp $ in to get all of this to be accounted for
[18:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: you can forward it
[18:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: or I can search and paste it.. or you can
[18:22]  SeanMcPherson Senior raises his hand "Apple, can I have a sec to ask some Q's, specific to my topic?"
[18:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but basically we need about 500ish people to break even based on what our initial budget was.. we arent there
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: 1 sec ok Sean
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: ok where are we then?
[18:22]  SeanMcPherson Senior: (once rhi's done w/ her current one, so I don't split her typing time, which I know her hands're gonna hurt after tonight anyway)
[18:22]  Apple MacKay: 200, 250?
[18:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so some things might have to be resorted.. again, I am content nurterer girl.. and not the $ or the tech contact.. but you guys emailed so I made sure to try to find a way to reach out to Swank
[18:23]  Apple MacKay: and I appreciate that
[18:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: at this point, I think a bit over 200.. Peter runs those reports and has access to the $ records
[18:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but we are low
[18:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: no doubt
[18:23]  Apple MacKay: that brings up totally other issues
[18:24]  Apple MacKay: do you know if he put in for the adode grant?
[18:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: which means if there is anyone that is going to attend we need them to register and also any speakers or others
[18:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I don't know, that got put to Peter the day after the board meeting
[18:24]  Apple MacKay: ok moving on to the tech issues
[18:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but.. I have no idea where/when this stuff with his mom comes into play.. I can call him probably Friday
[18:24]  Apple MacKay: band width and such
[18:25]  Apple MacKay: Sean you may have the floor
[18:25]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Thanks Apple.
[18:25]  Lyndon Heart: yes we are all waiting for bandwidth info
[18:25]  Apple MacKay: its ugly at this point LH
[18:25]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, the specific issues that're killers are that the entire methodology for the planning that Lyndon, Grace, and various panelists Katy's been working with was based around the context of mixed reality, to at least some extent.
[18:26]  Apple MacKay: its an internet conference
[18:26]  SeanMcPherson Senior: As I've stated since our May 4th meeting, on the TFU sponsored UserVoice voting thing, the top items were:
[18:26]  Apple MacKay: virtual reality no less
[18:26]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Music Showcase, Music panels, (strokers, which isn't happening) and for us to not screw up the internet, in that order.
[18:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: things like what the overall wifi will be able to be also depends on what we can afford. When you forwarded Sean's email.. I poked Swank and then also emailed the hotel.. basically looks like we could get access to the network box if we neded for a fee even if we dont do internet through the hotel
[18:27]  Apple MacKay: they are the number one voted on items by far
[18:27]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I've read every page of the e-planners tookilt, since day one.
[18:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes at this point, we have definite funds and sorting to have 3-4 hardline connections in the rooms for presenters and things like mixed reality
[18:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: it is the general wifi that comes up for contention.. specially if we don't get budget for that
[18:28]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so we are at least covered for the presenters and mixed reality stuff
[18:28]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So, regardless of which room a panel is taking place in, that room will have network drops we can use for 1 or more network clients specifically to permit in world and in SL corss streaming, etc?
[18:28]  SeanMcPherson Senior: How many tracks do we have taking place simultaneously?
[18:29]  Apple MacKay: outside of the main wifi network?
[18:29]  Katydid Something: non on our end
[18:29]  Katydid Something: none
[18:29]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Katy, I mean conf wide, not our side
[18:29]  SeanMcPherson Senior: ie, Us, Biz, and ?
[18:29]  Apple MacKay: there are other tracks Katy
[18:29]  Apple MacKay: helthcare
[18:29]  Apple MacKay: edu
[18:29]  Katydid Something: I know -- Im just saying that they music track has non concurrent sessions
[18:30]  SeanMcPherson Senior: My concern is that ATM, *no one* has been visibly managing the concept of the network for the convention, in an organized basis.
[18:30]  Crap Mariner: yeah. uh huh. while lunch is served, people want a lecture on HEALTHCARE! um.... NO! they want MUSIC to PLAY.
[18:30]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Katy: *nod* Thanks for the specificity
[18:30]  Crap Mariner: (anybody who wants the healthcare lecture... they need their head examined.... by the healthcare people!)
[18:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes.. this doesnt include any wifi .. that is something that Leo was sorting with them and they wanted crazy $ as you mentioned/saw Sean. thus that convo about if we could have access to the box in the emails you and Apple were CC'd on
[18:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Sean, also did you see Leo asking you to be on that group call for internet related things
[18:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I have very carefully ben asking specific Q,s and not straying :) My q is: how many simulataneous tracks will be operating at a single given point in time?
[18:31]  Apple MacKay: 3 I believe Sean
[18:32]  Apple MacKay: we have 3 rooms
[18:32]  Apple MacKay: and I think that seems clesr on the estimate from Swank
[18:32]  SeanMcPherson Senior waits a sec as he knows rhi is typing her fingers off :)
[18:32]  Apple MacKay: hey he also know what rooms out of the 47 we have booked as well
[18:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well there are larger tracks like you guys, ed, biz, health, there are also several smaller tracks, relationships, theater, performance, nonprofit, fashion
[18:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and also workshops that run for 2-3 hours each that are on poetry, fashion, machinima and a few others i cant remember
[18:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is off the top of my head
[18:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there is the main ballroom that can fit all of us
[18:33]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: How many rooms will have hardwired connections? And of them, is music always guaranteed to have one?
[18:33]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: then 2 other larger rooms that can be divided down in half to make a total of 4 rooms
[18:34]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: then 2 other smaller panel workshop rooms
[18:34]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: at this point all of them
[18:34]  SeanMcPherson Senior: so, 1 + 4 + 2 = 7.
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Thsoe 7 have bandwidth from the hotel (or will, once Leo and Swank can coordinate, since I know it wasn't in the quotes I saw)?
[18:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: unless of course money totally hits the fan.. but the order is main ballroom gets all the extra tech, the 4 other rooms a full set up and then if we have to ease up on numbers of hardlines.. less in those workshop rooms
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Gotcha.
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Okay, next set of Qs
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Are we planning to get a guaranteed amount of bandwidth on those hardpiped lines?
[18:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Swank isn't the internet.. had to clarify myself where that line was
[18:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: hotel is the internet
[18:35]  SeanMcPherson Senior: (as they bill on tiers, otherwise your pipes are all shared with the general hotel guests)
[18:35]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Swank is all of the AV
[18:36]  SeanMcPherson Senior: *nod* My misspeaking, yes.
[18:36]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure Sean, Leo emailed you.. I think earlier today.. about being on a cross track group I think for that reason of needing to come to a final decision and sorting of this stuff
[18:36]  Rhiannon Chatnoir hopes
[18:37]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, okay, this is *exactly* what I do for a living, bandwidth. And the fact is, we're within 30 days. I can tell you, it may be literally impossible to get any other options in there now. so, what that means is:
[18:37]  Apple MacKay: yes I had also called a top level / cross track meeting 2 weeks ago
[18:37]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod.. I know
[18:37]  Apple MacKay: and never got a response
[18:37]  SeanMcPherson Senior: the most likely reality is that we're stuck with what the hotel has already at whatever prices they want, with the exception of whatever I MIGHT be able to pull out of my ass using aircards, etc.
[18:37]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Now, for those that haven't read the docs:
[18:37]  SeanMcPherson Senior: hardwiring a room in and of itself comes w/ no extra bandwidth.
[18:38]  SeanMcPherson Senior: If we as a convention want 10 Mbit of gauranteed Bandwidth to not fight the hotel, we have to pony up $6000 for 5 days.
[18:38]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are all on the same side in the end on this.. since none of us get anything beyond the putting on a hopefully successful SL event.. as I can, I try to sort what I can
[18:38]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: there was contact info int hose emails too that I got when i poked around.. so I was hoping you would reach out to get a gleam of what we could do
[18:38]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, I know. I'm just trying to get everything out so Lyndon, Cyl, Katy, etc know what we might be dealing with, as that's my job for tech, given I've had no data until Monday.
[18:38]  Apple MacKay: as I understood it if we don't, we all share basically a cable connection
[18:39]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple: 3 Mbit.sec.
[18:39]  Apple MacKay: phew
[18:39]  Apple MacKay: thats a lil better
[18:39]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, yes.... internet connections in one form or anoher were last year's biggest expense
[18:39]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :(
[18:39]  Apple MacKay: I had read 3 Mbs
[18:39]  Edward Lowell: 3MBPS uplink ?
[18:39]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod.. I know.. and I am actually very happy you are .. cause it will help this happen and come off well
[18:39]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So, if we as a convention do pony up 6K for 10 Mbit, that still means we're limited and need to limit each client's connectivity, so people streaming in world, or clients who are 'getting an in world person into the conference' will have to be carefully managed
[18:40]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ed: supposed ot be sync, but I have no proof.
[18:40]  Edward Lowell: gotcha
[18:40]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I cannot imagine us making many connections on 3 Mbit, folks. So I'm assuming we're gonna HAVE to b uy some extra, or this is no longer a mixed reality event
[18:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod
[18:40]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: beyond timing things well via schedule
[18:41]  SeanMcPherson Senior: But since we're now within 30 days, start making plans with the expectation that you're doing a show or set of shows, just like being at a bar with wifi, okay?
[18:41]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: a lot of the panels will not need to pull into that... a lot of panels are simply... panels
[18:41]  Apple MacKay: like I said we are basically sharing a cable connection
[18:41]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, I've tried to get ahold of them already, with no answer. And frankly, since I can't sign for, ask for, or otherwise get any data without leo on the phone, I'm not sure what good it'll do me.
[18:41]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: so have been making sure to have others declare if they are doing anything mixed reality or higher tech.. or need that
[18:42]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, well respond back to his email.. and ride him on getting that group call into them
[18:42]  Apple MacKay: and the atendees are going to have to pay the daily rate from the hotel or have their own aircards correct?
[18:42]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: his email about a cross track phone meeting on all of this
[18:42]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah.. well.. specially f we can't get more $
[18:43]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: wifi for all has to be probably one of the first things to die
[18:43]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :(
[18:43]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, I don't intend to sit back; I'd propose that I've been fairly bulldogging lik mad trying to get data since May.
[18:43]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I haven't even mentioned wifi, yet, IIRC
[18:43]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod nod
[18:43]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :)
[18:43]  SeanMcPherson Senior: That's completely between TFU and the attendees.
[18:43]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah that is another beast
[18:43]  Apple MacKay: really we cant ride any harder
[18:43]  SeanMcPherson Senior: ie, if they want to stone you into the streets for it, all I'm gonna do is be in the panel rooms checking cabling for Lyndon and Cyl
[18:44]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I want to be clear; I can't/won't be total conference tech support with only 30 days left.
[18:44]  Edward Lowell: I agree with that :)
[18:44]  SeanMcPherson Senior: My priority is Lyndon, Cyl, Katy and anything Apple points me at, to be very much out in front of the issue.
[18:44]  Apple MacKay: we have been bringing these issues up for 6 weeks straight
[18:44]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: makes sense and understandable... just your tech for your track is a lot
[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, I'm also trying very hard to be polite and professional, and hopefully you don'tf feel I'm personally attacking you in any fashion. But I am concerned, and want you to know where my focus will be.
[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Okay, followup then:
[18:45]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and yeah.. my hope is we get at least all of this squared away so that all presenters and performers have what they need
[18:45]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod
[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple, I'm going to do everything I can to get the hotel to talk to me straight up.
[18:45]  Apple MacKay: good luck
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[18:45]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I already have 1 aircard and 1 WRT54G3G router we can use, and another PCMCIA card we can place in a laptop directly.
[18:46]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah... Swank is for the AV stuff.. but the other bits of all these itnernet issues is that other contact
[18:46]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I believe we also had an offer of another card, giving us potentially 3 varied 'out of band' connections solely to get our asses out of cracks.
[18:46]  Apple MacKay: I am going to try to get an aircard from work as well
[18:46]  Edward Lowell: I have two aircards PC5750s verizon
[18:46]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ed: bring 'em.
[18:46]  Edward Lowell: already packed in my suitcase
[18:46]  Katydid Something: I have a verizon that's not active now
[18:46]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: his number was in those emails.. and I hope that Nex is trying to have a group call to him with that email he sent out
[18:46]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Lyndon, Cyl, if you can *possibly* find someone locally who has one, and see what it does to you to connmect over one, I'm dying to know.
[18:46]  Katydid Something: plus the usb att card I told you about
[18:47]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I Know I can *get* in world on one, and I know I can *listen* to music usually, and I know I can *stream*outbound at 64kbps. But I need input from y'all on the effect.
[18:47]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Katy: *nod*
[18:47]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Now, I am also trying to see about a Sorint Mifi as well, but don't have confirmation.
[18:47]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: also, didn't awhile back one of you said you had a large audio streaming server... sorting that as an end point is also something to bring up
[18:48]  Apple MacKay: I dont think streaming from an aircard... esp a planned rfp approved convention event is right
[18:48]  SeanMcPherson Senior: It sound slike we might literally be able to slam a card in/on/around all the boxes we need to get in world people to the conference virtually or to get your performers' stream in world.
[18:48]  Katydid Something: no it's not right
[18:48]  Crap Mariner: one can be arranged fast and cheap
[18:48]  SeanMcPherson Senior: At the moment, I'm taking that as a bonnus and assuming that for whatever reason the hotel itself will go to hell; easier o plan that way.
[18:48]  Katydid Something: it guerilla tactics
[18:48]  Crap Mariner: but if i end up getting it, it's only for music.
[18:48]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: in the short list of the key things the Ballroom needs is that ability to capture and send to a stream out.. but at the least as longa s we get the audio feed we can stream out
[18:48]  Edward Lowell: I have a sprint ex720 card ,,, and yes I'll bring it
[18:48]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is for audio
[18:48]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple: Again, I'm planning for worst cases. I pray to not need to do it this way, but better planned for.
[18:49]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So, I think we have the *audio* server stuff handled, as well as oh shit connectivity.
[18:49]  Apple MacKay: agreed but I felt that I had to say that
[18:49]  Edward Lowell: yep we do we do
[18:49]  SeanMcPherson Senior: If Nexeus's quoted list of projectors and stuff is good, I think we're okay for 'virtual existance' at the minimum levels we speced
[18:49]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I am ALSO using my personal contacts
[18:50]  Lyndon Heart: you'll have to tell me what I'm looking for Sean
[18:50]  SeanMcPherson Senior: \I have tried to get some info on if I can get a crashlanded 100 Mbit wireless connection to the building, literally by shooting a signal into a window :)
[18:50]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Lyndon, will do, I;ll send a notecard offline, thank you.
[18:50]  Nasus Dumart: omg - Sean's MacGuyver!
[18:50]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: liek a truck parked by the hotel
[18:50]  Apple MacKay: Sean you are totally the alphageek of us all!
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: And I may also be able to get a crashed pipe into the hotel IF the hotel network equipment is accessible, but that's a LONG shot due to telco lead times
[18:51]  Lyndon Heart: beyond alpha
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: if I'd been able to start 30 days ago, I think so, but now? Crapshoot (no pun intended Mr Mariner)
[18:51]  Katydid Something bows to the alphageek
[18:51]  Nasus Dumart laughs
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Also, followups I'm working on
[18:51]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod.. yeah they seemed a bit alarmed but at least open to the possibility of getting into their network box
[18:51]  SeanMcPherson Senior: And I'd like ot get Lyndon and Cyl to maybe help me on this
[18:51]  Apple MacKay: you know we tried to get all this info months ago
[18:52]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i know
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: I am amazed at the miscommunications so far
[18:52]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lesson to me to poke into th ings sooner
[18:52]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Can any of the artists who;re gonna be there snag any of their live audio or MP3s or whatnot so if we *dop* lose connectivity/streaming from in the conference to in SL, that whatever stream we're on can play them as 'static files' as filler anytime we have to sort an issue out?
[18:52]  Apple MacKay: we all called the hotel numerous times and they told us they will only speak with TFU
[18:53]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ed: that'd prolly be something you're more intelligent about than me, professionally, but over the years I've done exactly that during streamed events with technical difficulties and again, as a worst case plan, it's far better than playing a *random stream*.
[18:53]  Katydid Something: I have a travel disk with lots of SL artists I can bring
[18:53]  Lyndon Heart: i got miles of recordings
[18:53]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well with Leo.. he is the signature on the contract and thus the $ to them
[18:53]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Great. Again, I hope to not need it, but I do DR planning.
[18:53]  Lyndon Heart: of my shows
[18:53]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Katy: I got us $1000 sponsorship today on my personal paper with the company.
[18:53]  Katydid Something: Alright Sean!
[18:54]  Mia Kitchensink: Prices for sponsorships start at $75.00 for half page ads so if anyone knows of
[18:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So Rhi, that'll come in form Peak 10 shortly, prolly thru Joe Allman or possibly our PR group.
[18:54]  Edward Lowell: I'll take about 1/4 mile of it and I'll have it cued on a backup laptop
[18:54]  Mia Kitchensink: companies start telling them
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :)
[18:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I have one last comment that I'll hold off on a sec:
[18:54]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah and even if you have anyone on your team who is virtually.. they can jump in as a DJ even if needed to cue things from afar.. again a worst case
[18:54]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Anyone have Q's for me that they haven't asked offline or already know they want me to get answered?
[18:55]  Mia Kitchensink: you need a dj
[18:55]  Amy Ferguson: I can be available to dj
[18:55]  Filthy Fluno: not even a DJ.. just someone to cue up a play list
[18:55]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Okay, comment, for your benefit Rhi based on feedback I've gotten randomly/directly.
[18:55]  Filthy Fluno: oh yea.. same thing in here
[18:56]  Filthy Fluno: ha!
[18:56]  Mia Kitchensink: ;D
[18:56]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: k
[18:57]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I know the money stuff is jacked. And I've been careful not to address wifi in my 'professional role' w/ Music track. But *every single person* I've had ask me Qs has A) expected it and believes it's inferred by the website to already be coming and B) knows that if they have ot pay $15 a day for several days on top of their attendence will specifically feel they've had their fee nearly doubled. And the comment I've heard most is "What kind of internet convention doesn't have internet for attendees?" So, again, I'm not adfdressing that as Music Tech geek, but as an unwitting target for 'attendee comments' you needed to hear clearly.
[18:58]  SeanMcPherson Senior: So however y'all prioritize, that's literally the first Q I'm always hearing,s o you can go back to TFU and say "The uservoice thing? not a fluke. People want that more than water on the tables."
[18:58]  Mia Kitchensink: I have heard from someone we have to pay extra for internet
[18:58]  SeanMcPherson Senior: er, TFU meetings, rather
[18:58]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Mia, ATM, there's no provision for attensee internet that's not self-funded, is my understanding.
[18:58]  Apple MacKay: more than lunches
[18:59]  Apple MacKay: more than anything really
[18:59]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is still in works
[18:59]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: all dpends on $ coming in
[18:59]  Apple MacKay: understood but just be aware that we are getting alot of comments/questions
[18:59]  Katydid Something looks around her office for that old verizon broadband card
[18:59]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are way under what it would take to make our committment to the hotel, tech, food, internet and any other costs like printing, etc
[19:00]  Apple MacKay: and this is the #1 question
[19:00]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i know
[19:00]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :(
[19:00]  Apple MacKay: ook
[19:00]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: *nod* It's $7/day for every user in 100 user blocks; cheaper than if people buy it seperately, just as a comment. People can go to (and have) the eplanner thing and said they don't wanna pay $15 for something they feel they should/could get for less. Again, not an *attack* just making sure you know.
[19:00]  Mia Kitchensink: and what is sad, a big batch of sponsorship requests said the deadline was the 7th. So I will touch base again and say the deadline is the 13th but that is short notice for them.
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: Again via user voice we were voted as the #1 thing people wanted
[19:01]  Katydid Something: What about sims for inworld?
[19:01]  Apple MacKay: Music is the next "Killer App" via M Linden
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod
[19:01]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I'm doing what I can do, ATM. I paid my registration fee, didn't ask for a speaker or tech geek slot for freebie, and have brought in a sponsor which *also* comes with a slot and don't expect to get that refunded for it either, so hopefully, that'll help loosen up some internet flow :)
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we got wokred into the hotel deal for those that reigster a room that they get free room internet
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that was brokered early on for that
[19:01]  Crap Mariner: I believe that I will consider adding "We'd prefer not to be jacked around" on the top of my list for my M is for Music project report I hand to him.
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: but yeah the wifi at conference is the issue and I hope too we have $ for that
[19:01]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: totally
[19:02]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: Wait!
[19:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: it will effect all of us
[19:02]  SeanMcPherson Senior: so if you are at the hotel you get wifi in the hotel rooms 'only' or in the meeting rooms as well?
[19:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: all of the tracks and attendees
[19:02]  SeanMcPherson Senior: They coukdn't/wouldn't tell me that when I called :)
[19:02]  SeanMcPherson Senior: They == hotel front desk when I couldn't get the internet geeks to talk to me *grin*
[19:02]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure how their network works on if it is registering in your wifi or it is more based on the room
[19:03]  Apple MacKay: room internet inst wifi
[19:03]  Apple MacKay: its hardwired
[19:03]  Crap Mariner: Get. An. Answer. This. Is. A. Major. Issue.
[19:03]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: k, my understanding based on their website is the wifi in the meeting rooms is sep from hotel room stuff, so we need to find out stat.
[19:03]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I. Understand. & Feel. The Same. :)
[19:04]  Apple MacKay: Crap you wanted the floor for a minute?
[19:04]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I am also not the entire conference.. so I am really trying as I can... I would say Sean respond back to Leo and make sure to CC Apple to on that idea of getting a group call together
[19:04]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ok. So, lyndon, Cyl, and Katy: I think I'm doing my best, considering, but wanted y'all to have no lack of clarity of what we're currently facing as possible scenarios.
[19:05]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple, unless there're new Q's, I think I'm done. :)
[19:05]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: if that doesn't work, next best thing I can do is set up a call like that myself and hope they hear me.. but we all have the problem of $ no matter
[19:05]  Katydid Something: Sean I'll get with you tomorrow via email
[19:05]  Apple MacKay: Sean and I are very much in touch up to this point... we all are... we wouldnt/couldnt be this organized if we werent
[19:05]  SeanMcPherson Senior: katy: always available via email; you have my hiptop address :)
[19:05]  Mia Kitchensink: Yes. ads for sale starting at $75.00. spread the word.
[19:06]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod, yes.. it makes me totally happy that you guys are.. helps me and the community deserves music back into the mix of things.. it is important
[19:06]  Filthy Fluno: ads for what?
[19:06]  Katydid Something: I'll foot the bill for one for Molaskey
[19:06]  Katydid Something: Molaskey
[19:06]  Mia Kitchensink: the sponsorship prices start at 75
[19:06]  Katydid Something: s pub
[19:06]  Mia Kitchensink: for a half page ad
[19:06]  Katydid Something: for $75
[19:06]  Filthy Fluno: ad in what?
[19:06]  Mia Kitchensink: and the price climbs for co names on t-shirts etc
[19:06]  Katydid Something: convention book
[19:06]  Mia Kitchensink: i will send you a pdf file
[19:07]  Apple MacKay: the program they cant afford to print yet
[19:07]  Apple MacKay: lol
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: filthy and anyone else that wants to pass it out
[19:07]  Edward Lowell: I want one as well for TheStreamTeam
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: ok
[19:07]  Filthy Fluno: convention book?
[19:07]  Katydid Something: Send one to me
[19:07]  Filthy Fluno: you mean slcc program?
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: I need an email address
[19:07]  Nasus Dumart: The convention program
[19:07]  Mia Kitchensink: yes
[19:07]  Katydid Something: yes!
[19:07]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Filthy: the legal pad sized paper program we get every year
[19:07]  Nasus Dumart: it's in the pdf we created
[19:07]  Filthy Fluno: k
[19:07]  Filthy Fluno: got it
[19:07]  Katydid Something: kk
[19:07]  Nasus Dumart: find it on the molaskeys-pub.com site
[19:08]  Mia Kitchensink: send an email address and I can send it
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well last year printing costs for the program was a bit under $4000
[19:08]  Edward Lowell: ahh I can get ot from there I think
[19:08]  SeanMcPherson Senior: apple, don't forget to obfuscate email addys :)
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir knows cause that was the crux of her roles most years
[19:08]  Apple MacKay: yup
[19:08]  SeanMcPherson Senior: But that was for closer to 1000, not 200 :P
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we can scale back on what the program means though
[19:08]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: like keep descriptions online or bios online... if we need to cut it down some
[19:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: was for 800
[19:09]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Um, if we do that, we just screwed the sponsors, who expect people to need ot read the programs.
[19:09]  Apple MacKay: I would like to just say a few things about this last week
[19:09]  SeanMcPherson Senior: ie, that's what gets their eyes on them.
[19:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: no ads get in of course
[19:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are talking text scaling
[19:09]  SeanMcPherson Senior hushes
[19:09]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: last year we had 48 inner pages
[19:10]  Apple MacKay: I know myself and others have lost significant sleep and almost walked
[19:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: meaning.. we can lighten bios on all presenters and that frees up pages possibly... not saying that is what we will do just saying there are options
[19:10]  Apple MacKay: I really want to give you all my thanks
[19:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: printing is somethng I can at least speak of in regards to cost
[19:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: unlike networking :(
[19:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i have too
[19:10]  Apple MacKay: we can only do so much
[19:10]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: since January
[19:10]  Apple MacKay: and we have done it up to this point really well
[19:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i know
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: yes it is getting hard
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: no one said it would be easy
[19:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i started dreaming even on ways to sort some of the community things we were having issues with
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: we are in the final countdown now
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: and please know I think you have all done a truely tremendous job
[19:11]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: which was why I was so so happy that you guys came together and so tight.. to mean that music could be back in an stronger than it had ... that made me happy and gave me hope
[19:11]  Mia Kitchensink: You too Apple
[19:11]  Apple MacKay: no matter what happens
[19:11]  Katydid Something: Well, what we need to do is beat the sims for attendees and the streets for money!
[19:12]  Mia Kitchensink: It was extremely fun last year with 2 musicians so it will be terrific this year!
[19:12]  Lyndon Heart: good Idea Katy
[19:12]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is for real comment btw.. no matter how icky or great things go... you guys being part of it helped me sort it was worth it.
[19:12]  Filthy Fluno: last year it was more than 2 musicians
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: really
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: lyndon and cyl?
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: Kyle
[19:13]  Katydid Something: Kyle was there
[19:13]  Nasus Dumart smiles at Rhi
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: ok
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: Filthy
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: Crap
[19:13]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :)
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: I must have been asleep
[19:13]  Filthy Fluno: and everyone keeps beating up on last year's music event... it was pretty sweet if you ask me
[19:13]  Katydid Something: Georgianna!
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: Geogianna
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: And GG was great
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: It was great
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: belting it out
[19:13]  Apple MacKay: Right Lyndon
[19:13]  Katydid Something: OK -- well, here to a better SLCC for music!
[19:13]  Mia Kitchensink: Apple has a video of the music and art on the pub website from last year
[19:14]  Lyndon Heart: are cly and I still working with a 7pm to 1am time slot for a live show?
[19:14]  Filthy Fluno: and it was very cost efficient
[19:14]  Katydid Something: Rhi what do we know about inworld sims
[19:14]  Apple MacKay: yes
[19:14]  Nasus Dumart: it was a grass roots, BYOB spontaneous event - was wonderful!
[19:14]  Filthy Fluno: so :p to everyone
[19:14]  Apple MacKay: 6 hours
[19:14]  Mia Kitchensink: Yes. and a great thanks to all the musicians that will make it happen too
[19:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes
[19:14]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: we weren't stifled by unions last year that i know of
[19:14]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: tracks go on til 5ish and need time for any change over, etc
[19:14]  Nasus Dumart: Rhi - can we skip catering and make this a byob, too?
[19:14]  Katydid Something: NO cuz we were really guerilla music last yerar
[19:14]  Apple MacKay: the mic goes live promptly at 7
[19:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that doesnt mean if you want to do another performance earlier somewhere that we don't sort you in
[19:15]  Lyndon Heart: we'll be ready at 6 just in case ;-)
[19:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: the hotel won't let us Nasus
[19:15]  Mia Kitchensink: Ed, your pdf file has been sent
[19:15]  Nasus Dumart: yeah - that's what I thought
[19:15]  Edward Lowell: thank Mia
[19:15]  Mia Kitchensink: ;D
[19:15]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Was there any answer to if there're Linden provided sims for the event or if we're on our own?
[19:15]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: we have an allotted food budgt that is part of the contract
[19:15]  Mia Kitchensink: Yes there was music at the pool last yr and I missed that.
[19:15]  Apple MacKay: on our own
[19:15]  Apple MacKay: afaik
[19:15]  SeanMcPherson Senior: K. Blank Canvas is available, then.
[19:15]  Apple MacKay: I got a fairly cryptic answer from Leo
[19:16]  Katydid Something: Thank you Sean!
[19:16]  SeanMcPherson Senior: I'll set the venue in drag race mode for optimal # of avatars.
[19:16]  Apple MacKay: still waiting on hearing from LL
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: they usually do, I think 3 or 4
[19:16]  Apple MacKay: at this point keep waiting
[19:16]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Since I have a panel on that, it'd be an example :P
[19:16]  Mia Kitchensink: drag race mode, ;D
[19:16]  Lyndon Heart: I'll talk to Sal about 7 veils too
[19:16]  Katydid Something: cool!
[19:16]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Lyndon: you da man.
[19:16]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is cause LL is making us sign a revised license of using the Sl branding... don't things will be finalized til then
[19:16]  Mia Kitchensink: Filthy, give me an email if you want a pdf file
[19:16]  Katydid Something: Don't forget Musimmersion
[19:16]  Nasus Dumart: I received several comments from people that feel left out - as avatars - we NEED to get the in world stuff ironed out asap, too
[19:16]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Katy: It's outside the venue space, own parcels.
[19:17]  Lyndon Heart: will MM have enough bandwidth?
[19:17]  Katydid Something: kk
[19:17]  Filthy Fluno: mia... i can't afford $25 ad
[19:17]  Apple MacKay: Nas we can only take care of ourselves at this point
[19:17]  Mia Kitchensink: do you know anyone who can though?
[19:17]  Apple MacKay: there is no Official SLCC location for the Conference
[19:17]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: you guys are also cool to use the sim I have and the sim my SL dev company has if needed
[19:17]  Apple MacKay: in SL
[19:17]  Mia Kitchensink: I was just wanting to spread the word, or direct them to Nasus or myself.
[19:17]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: which is Sudo and Vesuvius
[19:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: I can ask the guys about Vesuvius but am sure it is fine.. and Sudo is totally mine
[19:18]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: is an art focused sim but we can sort an area
[19:18]  Apple MacKay: gwampa also offered up the 4 sim stage of his as well
[19:18]  Mia Kitchensink: great
[19:18]  Filthy Fluno: yea.. and Artropolis if always available if peeps want
[19:18]  Filthy Fluno: just say the word
[19:19]  Apple MacKay: ok so the waiting for info from TFU is over really... its kind of fend for ourselves at this point
[19:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and, we are thinking the way to sort the sims that make sense if we get the usual from LL is to have a large central stage area and then the major tracks and any key sponsors would get space on them
[19:19]  Apple MacKay: I hope the room is available
[19:19]  Edward Lowell: How many 1000 listener audio streams should I dedicate and reserve to this function? I have the streams and the details of them when we have the requirement .. :)
[19:19]  Apple MacKay: I am still doubtful about that
[19:19]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well.. sorting the internet is something we need to sort and comes to $ and communication
[19:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: are you asking for just the music track.. or are you donating to other tracks as well Edward
[19:20]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Ed: 1 :P
[19:20]  Apple MacKay: lol
[19:20]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: :)
[19:20]  Apple MacKay: thats what I was gonna say
[19:20]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple: Guerilla radio!!! Doin' what we do best :P
[19:20]  Edward Lowell: I'll donate for the whole conference .. its all the same to me :)
[19:20]  Apple MacKay: yup
[19:21]  Katydid Something wonders if we can request rooms together for music track organizers
[19:21]  Apple MacKay: pillowfight!
[19:21]  Filthy Fluno: you're the bomb diggity bomb Ed Lowell
[19:21]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:21]  Katydid Something: yes!!!
[19:21]  Edward Lowell: lol
[19:21]  Katydid Something: or just plain party
[19:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well the most it would need is 7 streams for all rooms
[19:21]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and you guys might want another one or two if you do guerilla shows around things or things in tandem
[19:22]  Edward Lowell: so let it be written .. I'll reserve 10 at least ....
[19:22]  Edward Lowell: and bring a few in my pocket as well
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: aww
[19:22]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Um, I'm not streaming to Ed's pocket, just for the record.
[19:22]  Edward Lowell: lol
[19:22]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:22]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:22]  Feline Slade: lol
[19:22]  Katydid Something: Course we can always use ours as we will all be there
[19:22]  Edward Lowell: lol
[19:22]  Apple MacKay: that 10,000 listeners availability Ed just donated Rhi!
[19:22]  Katydid Something: stream that is
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i know
[19:23]  Apple MacKay: ok
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i will hug him in person
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and anyone else.. if you all still love me then
[19:23]  Lyndon Heart: is that your stream in you pocket or...?
[19:23]  Edward Lowell: woohoo .. what do I get for 20 ?
[19:23]  Mia Kitchensink: we love you
[19:23]  Edward Lowell: j/k
[19:23]  Katydid Something: LOL!
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol Ed
[19:23]  Nasus Dumart: lol
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: 2 hugs.. :)
[19:23]  Mia Kitchensink: love to Rhiannon
[19:23]  Edward Lowell: sold
[19:23]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:24]  Apple MacKay: Thank You Ed
[19:24]  Filthy Fluno: rhia... i'm gonna give you a foot massage
[19:24]  Apple MacKay: ok so this is a wrap... ok?
[19:24]  Edward Lowell: :) my pleasure
[19:24]  Mia Kitchensink: oh boy
[19:24]  SeanMcPherson Senior: 1 sec:
[19:24]  Filthy Fluno: with my bum
[19:24]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Apple, if I can
[19:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Cyl are you going to Podcamp boston the weekend before
[19:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[19:24]  Apple MacKay: you got it Sean
[19:24]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: Filthy you can drive to my house now for that!
[19:24]  Nasus Dumart: :)
[19:25]  Filthy Fluno: meet me at my gallery...we're do it dirty lowell style
[19:25]  Filthy Fluno: i mean.. filthy lowell style
[19:25]  Edward Lowell: lol
[19:25]  Nasus Dumart: Filthy is as Filthy does.
[19:25]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: ahahah
[19:25]  Katydid Something: LOL
[19:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: my boyfriend is closing on a house.. someday I can welcome a motley crue of you to a RL meetup .. :P
[19:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol Filthy
[19:25]  Apple MacKay: please let Sean type
[19:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: haha
[19:25]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: i really laughed over that
[19:25]  Mia Kitchensink: woo hoo
[19:25]  Filthy Fluno: word
[19:26]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: house is in the woods btw and with an indoor pool.. as if I dont have enough.... house closing end of month
[19:26]  Filthy Fluno: sweet!
[19:26]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: next year.. SLCC pool party :P
[19:26]  Nasus Dumart: I like the sound of THAT!
[19:26]  Mia Kitchensink: i live near a beach if you all can drop in, lol
[19:26]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi, *please* please take back to the board meeting that wifi for 100 *active, simultaneous* users seems to be $700 a day, and I can't possibly imagine any better way to spend money. I know as a sponsor I can't request where the money goes, but please, as an internet service provider, it'll personally pain me to know my logo is on a shirt, bag, and program for an internet event on music night w/ no wifi :) And I'll say right now that if TFU can find a way to cover 3 days of wifi, at least for the main days for 100 simult users, I'll pay for 1 day out of my pocket, $700, and that's in addition to the previously promised bronze sponsorship coming.
[19:26]  Filthy Fluno: nothing like a sugar daddy with an indoor pool and filthy comin over for foot massages
[19:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: problem is that from what I understand Sean they log the IP addy's so if someone logs on and off.. they tqake that slot
[19:27]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: their docs say active and simultaneous.
[19:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: not that it still won't make most happy and if they reset that every 24 hours it is ok
[19:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: hmm
[19:27]  Filthy Fluno: jesus sean... you're not going to have any money left for art buying.. .wtf!
[19:27]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: again my second hand.. def something to call them on
[19:27]  SeanMcPherson Senior: http://www.westinstfrancisgroups.com/planner/assets/documents/Internet_Connection_Rates-2008.pdf
[19:28]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:28]  Mia Kitchensink: We ought to quickly switch hotels, lol
[19:28]  Apple MacKay: Simply amazing Sean
[19:28]  Apple MacKay: Rhi take that to the board as Sean asked
[19:28]  Fe Slade: lol, Mia. SLCC at Super 8?
[19:28]  Lyndon Heart: Sean -YOU- da man!
[19:28]  Apple MacKay: we need to know the answer next week
[19:28]  Mia Kitchensink: lol
[19:28]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and yeah.. I would pay for a day too really if that is a case of it isn't locked to IP
[19:28]  Apple MacKay: if possible
[19:29]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i have to go.....time to setup
[19:29]  Apple MacKay: ok Cyl
[19:29]  Nasus Dumart: bye Cyl!
[19:29]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: lyndon and i are going to contact misty
[19:29]  Mia Kitchensink: so glad the meeting was good
[19:29]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: and work out entertainment
[19:29]  Apple MacKay: thanks for bearing with this meeting tonight
[19:29]  Katydid Something: Thanks for being here Cyl
[19:29]  Misty Rhodes: I am right here if you mean me
[19:29]  Mia Kitchensink: yay
[19:29]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: no problem sorry RL got in the way the last couple of weeks
[19:29]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: well so you know.. there are 4 hotels that could take 800+ people.. which is what we originally thought/hoped/counted on.. other than the Moscone Center
[19:29]  Mia Kitchensink: need you?
[19:29]  Lyndon Heart: Cya Cly.. we'll talk
[19:29]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Rhi: I'll work with Leo. But I wanted you to know how serious an issue that was, and how far I think it needs to be followed :) 'Money where my mouth is' is the best I can do
[19:30]  Cylindrian Rutabaga: i know i'll chat with you when we can misty about that night....gotta go jam
[19:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and we were originally going to be the Marriott but then had all of the Prop 8 stuff to deal with and reached out to all of the other hotels and had them all bid.. all 4
[19:30]  Misty Rhodes: ok have a good one
[19:30]  Cylindrian Rutabaga has a very tiny screen and can't see avatars...only chat
[19:30]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: and so we got something competitive.. but yeah.. if we arent that many people in the end.. could have been way more options
[19:31]  Apple MacKay: ok so this is now officially a wrap
[19:31]  Apple MacKay: aye?
[19:31]  Katydid Something: Thanks Apple
[19:31]  Katydid Something: aye!!!!
[19:31]  Edward Lowell: yes I must go as well .. thanks everyone .. I'll get the notecards ready for the 10 high capacity streams .. as a starting point
[19:31]  Lyndon Heart: thanks Apple
[19:31]  Edward Lowell: see everyone later !!!
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: rhi, please see what Apple can get as far as # of registered users and keep him up to sate on it, if possible, as we're all harassing him regularly for data :P
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: date rather
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: thanks Apple.
[19:31]  Lyndon Heart: ttfn!
[19:31]  Katydid Something: Thank you Edward!
[19:31]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: hugs to you all.. sorry.. and I will let you poke me and also hope for some hugs when this is all over
[19:31]  SeanMcPherson Senior: Lyndon, I'll write a notecard tomorrow re: aircards and such
[19:31]  Apple MacKay: thanks everyone
[19:32]  Katydid Something: And Sean, Thank you for all your hard work and persistance!!!
[19:32]  Rhiannon Chatnoir: another biggest kicking myself moment is that I couldnt get away for the site visit when that happened

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